Radical Environmentalism Revealed: Ending Sovereignty and Private Property

NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Scratch a radical environmentalist, find a radical, full stop. Case in point: Boston Globe columnist James Carroll. In his New thinking to save the earth [is that all?], Carroll calls for nothing less than the end of the United States as we know it, and a yours-is-mine socialism.

Carroll claims that "if the earth is to survive as a human habitat," the meaning of four subjects "must be transformed." Among the things Carroll wants to redefine are "nation" and "property." Ominous enough, but getting down into the details is even more chilling.

Nation: A 19th-century notion of national sovereignty allows sub groups to pursue agendas without regard for their effects on the whole. But this wrongly assumes that the health of the whole is a matter of indifference to the group. The United States has long refused to temper its claim to radical independence from all other nations, but that both defines the source of America's disproportionate ecological destructiveness and impedes every effort to mitigate it. There will be no stopping environmental degradation until nations stop thinking of independent sovereignty as an absolute. Climate change respects no borders.

Consider the condescension. Those benighted people who believe in the notion of the USA are hopelessly stuck in the 1800s, unlike the enlightened Carroll and his green fellow travelers. That "claim to radical independence"? Most of us would simply call it independence and sovereignty. And the implication of his statement that climate change respects no borders is clear: we shouldn't either.

Property: In America, where full citizenship was originally granted only to property owners, we are what we have. The pursuit of happiness equals the accumulation of possessions. This cult of "more" drives an economy that defines its health by growth, its market by the globe. In families, the success of a second generation is defined only by its surpassing in affluence the first. This merciless consumption divides people into "haves," "the have less," and "have nots," but it also eats the environment alive. Sufficiency, simplicity, and a sense that the treasures of the earth are the property of all people must become notes of the new America.

Carroll makes Americans out to be little more than cargo cultists. As for success being defined only in terms of affluence, says who? America is filled with people who in their professional and/or private lives devote themselves to helping others. And his line about "the treasures of the earth" being "the property of all people," is nothing less than unreconstructed Marxism.

Thanks go to Carroll for his candor. He confirms what so many have suspected: that radical environmentalism is little more than a cloak for socialism and not mere anti-Americanism but quite literally the abolition of the United States of America.

Finkelstein lives in Ithaca, NY, currently in the grip of a heavy snow storm. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net

[randog]

As Carroll abhors private property, I take it that he does not own a house.

Or have children.

Carroll could start by advocating shutting down newspapers, magazines, the whole newsprint industry. Think of the savings in trees, fuel, etc. It's for the earth, after all.

[Dick Bachert]

Trust me, while klintoon is very much involved in this effort to remake America into something the Founders would not recognize, it goes MUCH, MUCH deeper and has been going on for a very long time. In fact, were they to return today, many of the FFs would either be in jail, in the streets or dead at the hands of the current crop (or is that “crap”?) of “authorities.

The Globalony Warming frenzy is simply the latest device to achieve their very nefarious ends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qV2OM8ajQ

[Gabz]

***bangs head on desk***

Don't do that, you'll hurt yourself. Better still, bang the environuts heads on the desk - maybe it will knock some sense into them :)

[MEG33]

BUMP!

[66-442hot]

I doubt banging their heads would change anything!

[Gabz]

You’re probably right, but it wa the best idea I could come up with this morning :)

[yankeedame]

Now one can contemplate real Islamic terrorist events going back decades,

Going back decades? Right now I am finishing up a (non-fic) book called "Krakatoa: The Day the World Exploded" and, naturally, the Dutch and the Dutch East Indies Co. play a large part of the story.

What stopped me in my tracks was the author mentioning that almost from the arrival of the first Dutchman (17th century) there had been a simmering "cold war" declared on the Dutch by radical Islamists!

Like they say: The more things change, the more the stay the same.

[metmom]

I doubt banging their heads would change anything!

That's probably what caused their problems to begin with.

[Gabz]

Well, I just wish they would send some of that global warming stuff this way.........I’m tired of being cold and wet........and I need to get into the garden, I’m now 2 weeks behind for beans and corn, and I do believe I’ve lost my pea crop to the flooding.

[ccmay]

Thar be a watermelon (as described by Walter Williams).

Green on the outside, Red on the inside.

-ccm

[Fishrrman]

Create an artificial crisis. Scare people to death, and then use that fear to push your radical agenda. Global warming is right out of the Clinton playbook. Al Gore and his merry band of global socialists learned well.

It's more "out of" Michael Crichton's "State of Fear".

If you (or any other Freeper) haven't yet read it, you ought to consider doing so.

- John

[Eastbound]

"Sufficiency, simplicity, and a sense that the treasures of the earth are the property of all people must become notes of the new America."

Where's he been? America survives and advances because people here are rewarded proportionately for mining and refining their share of the 'treasures of earth.' But not all the people of the world want to pick up a 'pick-axe.'

I hope that's sufficient and simple enough for him.

[metmom]

I've got lettuce, peas, and zucchini started indoors. I put them outside whenever I get the chance to harden off but know better than to actually PLANT them. Not today, though. Right now, I have to clear about 8 inches of global warming out of my driveway. I decided it would be better to do it in two batches than kill myself later, especially when it's this heavy and wet. Go figure, the weather radio is reporting rain in Toronto, Canada and it's snowing in Georgia. We're located in the area that's supposed to get the most.

[Gabz]

ACK - 8 inches? I don’t envy you. We got about 4 last weekend, this has just been rain, and 50 mile an hour winds. They closed the schools today because of it.

Peas are the only thing I’ve got planted outside. I have all but given up on the strawberries. I’ve got peppers, tomatoes, 4 types of squash, tomatillos, basil, parsley, and cilantro all started in the house. I’m going to do more peppers and cucumbers today. But I’m running out of room for trays because I haven’t been able to put anything upstairs, because it’s too cold up there........and forget about trying to put anything outside, I’d lose everything.

Trying to work outside is impossible right now and it is driving me insane.

[henkster]

“As Carroll abhors private property, I take it that he does not own a house.

Probably several. All this thinking and decisions from the self-appointed elite are meant for the great unwashed masses, never for themselves. After all, someone has to run things, all for our benefit, of course.”

As none of it is really “his” then I think I’ll go hang where he is “staying” right now. Raid the (not his, right?) refrigerator for beer and food (probably just veggies). Maybe take some liberties with the woman who also lives there (doubt he recognizes marriage), if she’s attractive. Go for a long drive in whatever car is in the garage. I might want to use for, oh say, a year or two. Or until I wreck it, then I’ll bring it back.

Anyone else care to join me? Hey, it’s all of ours, isn’t it?

[ancient_geezer]

Global warming is right out of the Clinton playbook. Al Gore and his merry band of global socialists learned well.

More like straight out of Machiavelli, nothing new. Same centuries ole game, just the labels change.

 

 

 

POLITICS OF CATASTROPHE IN A NUTSHELL:
(Lessons of history)

 

“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. ”
-- H. L. Mencken

• “A hypothesis is always preferable to the truth, for we tailor a hypothesis to fit our opinion of the truth, whereas the truth is only its own awkward self. Ergo, never discover the truth when a hypothesis will do.”

• “For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances, as though they were realities, and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are.”

• “Therefore a wise prince ought to adopt such a course that his citizens will always in every sort and kind of circumstance have need of the state and of him, and then he will always find them faithful.”

• “Besides what has been said, people are fickle by nature; and it is a simple to convince them of something but difficult to hold them in that conviction; and, therefore, affairs should be managed in such a way that when they no longer believe, they can be made to believe by force.”
  -- Nicolo Machiavelli

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
-- H. L. Mencken

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“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
-- Plato

 

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[highlander_UW]

In the name of the “greater good” these socialists are intent on removing our freedom which ends up being “good” for no one. Liberalism is a mental illness.

[metmom]

He needs to share. He’s had it long enough and it’s my turn now.

[metmom]

Sure it’s good for someone..... them. After all, someone has to make all the decisions and there should be compensation for the burden they bear. Right?

Wait a minute.....