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DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES
blogs.abcnews.com ^ | 4/12/07 | Terry Moran

Posted on 04/13/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by RedCell

DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor who pursued a case of rape and kidnapping against three Duke University lacrosse players, has been found to have been reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties according to the state's attorney general. He abused the power the people of Durham granted him. Based on the public record of what he did in this case, he may well be properly disbarred.

The accuser in this case has been shown to be either a vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.

The three young men who she accused are truly innocent of the charges brought against them according to the North Carolina Attorney General and the investigation led by his office.

But perhaps the outpouring of sympathy for Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans is just a bit misplaced. They got special treatment in the justice system--both negative and positive. The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least. And there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country who never get the high-priced legal representation and the high-profile, high-minded vindication that it strikes me as just a bit unseemly to heap praise and sympathy on these particular men.

So as we rightly cover the vindication of these young men and focus on the genuine ordeal they have endured, let us also remember a few other things:

They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.

During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.

Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.

The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them--the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Duke or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success. They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans--or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured:

I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either. They aren't heroes. They aren't boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor--and had the resources the fight him off.

April 12, 2007 | Permalink


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2strippers; 800dollars; pervertparty; strippers
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To: RedCell

They definitely would not have been in this situation had they not been hiring strippers, but the price they have paid is way to high......I find this article disgusting and the author of it using the forum to bash white males.


41 posted on 04/13/2007 12:38:19 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Dinsdale
Nifong is a typical DA. No worse then average.

You've known a lot of DA's, eh?

42 posted on 04/13/2007 12:38:32 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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To: marsapan

As it turned out, hiring white strippers would have been a prudent decision. Like extra-marital sex, hiring strippers is not the conduct you would like to see from our college students. But, like using a condom, there is a matter of prudent self-protection when engaged in morally questionable behavior. Does anyone think that these young men would have been charged if the stripper had been white? Not that false charges could not have been made, but that no DA, including Nifong, would charge on the uncorroborated accusation of (a) a mentally disturbed stripper (b) with a criminal record, (c) a history of previous unsubstantiated rape allegations, (d) a constantly changing story contrary to the accounts of everyone else who was present at the party, (e) who was passed out drugged or drunk shortly after the alleged offense, and (e) who had the DNA of every straight male in Durham county in her panties, EXCEPT the accused.


43 posted on 04/13/2007 12:38:41 PM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: RedCell

Yea Moron, they are white so they deserve to be punished without having committed any crime. They’re rich so they deserve to be punished....this article is a POS deluxe. Moron should be put into prison and falsely accused of child molestation....


44 posted on 04/13/2007 12:39:09 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: RedCell

So PravdABDNC was wrong, just not that wrong. Is hiring strippers a criminal act in Durham??

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


45 posted on 04/13/2007 12:39:27 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: RedCell

As the saying goes, ‘any publicity is good publicity’, guess what:

Terry Moron has gotten oodles of comments, (mostly negative and rightly so), but he has also been linked via Drudge all day (and probably into the night) and that raises his profile, and in the liberal-left-moonbat village of idiots, all people will talk about is ‘wow, Terry sure got them wound up with that article today didn’t he?’

And everyone will say ‘Terry’s quite a writer isn’t he?’

[But he’s still a moron.]


46 posted on 04/13/2007 12:39:49 PM PDT by mkjessup ('President Rudy!!! = an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!')
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To: RedCell

My liberal friend still says, “well, everyone knows that they did something.” My husband asked what his parents would do if my nephew (same age) was one of these boys. I told him the I’m sure John would never have been involved in hiring a stripper. I think of all my kids and nephews and niece and none of them would have been involved in hiring a stripper. So, does that make them guilty of rape? no but it does make them guilty of hiring a stripper and so the lesson learned is be careful who you play with.


47 posted on 04/13/2007 12:40:40 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: RedCell
The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least.

To say the least, it would be interesting to talk to some of Terry Moran's college classmates to see if his conduct was ever less than admirable.

48 posted on 04/13/2007 12:41:22 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Dick Vomer; RedCell

Hey, Terry, YOU are a white boy — better watch yourself!


49 posted on 04/13/2007 12:42:35 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: RedCell

Assuming I could only post the escapades that would pass muster with the Admin Mods, my list might be fairly short.


50 posted on 04/13/2007 12:43:07 PM PDT by blau993
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To: RedCell

When you are a stripper, you got to expect epithets. They sort of come with the territory.


51 posted on 04/13/2007 12:43:28 PM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: RedCell
One television show I rarely miss is the Jimmy Kimmel late show and quite often if I tune in early I force myself to watch Nightline...if this little assclown is hosting though I switch over, I just can't stand him.

He is so smarmy and effeminate that he makes me puke...he reminds me of those two creeps in the movie Animal House, the one who went on to get raped in prison and the one who was fragged by his own men in Vietnam.

52 posted on 04/13/2007 12:45:57 PM PDT by Geronimo
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To: csn vinnie

you make a good point, yes. The word “prudent” may not be the correct word as these guys wouldn’t know prudent if it slapped them.

:`)


53 posted on 04/13/2007 12:46:10 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: blau993
Sounds like Terry Moran wasn't smart enough to get into Duke or any of the other "elite" schools.

Moran graduated in 1982 from Lawrence University in Appleton WI.

According to Wikipedia: "In 2007, Lawrence was ranked #53 by U.S. News & World Report, tied with Reed College in Portland, Oregon. The College is less selective than most institutions of its kind, admitting over 55% of its applicants. Thus, it is included in Loren Pope's, Colleges that Change Lives, a book highlighting schools that are comparable to the most selective colleges in the country in quality, but far less selective. Whitman College, Reed College, Beloit College, St. John's College and Clark University are some of the others included."

54 posted on 04/13/2007 12:50:48 PM PDT by drubyfive
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To: SCHROLL

“no because probably no woman will get nude in front of him for whatever reason and for whatever amount of cash he offers.”

class envy or is he just ugly? :`)


55 posted on 04/13/2007 12:50:58 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: RedCell
From the author of the article: "During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers. "

And the author knows this how? Based on evidence collected by an out-of-control DA? Based on evidence coerced from intimidated witnesses? Based on evidence supplied by a proven liar? Based on unsubstantiated claims from a liberal media?

The author should be ashamed of himself for not realizing that he is part of the problem and not part of the solution.

56 posted on 04/13/2007 1:05:03 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: RedCell
And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.

I agree. If our so called journalists were not involved in office politics, national politics, their own agenda and looked for stories instead of reporting stories this type of prosecutor abuse would would be accurately reported.

57 posted on 04/13/2007 1:06:14 PM PDT by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: RedCell

Terry Moran is a disgusting piece of turd. He is racist. He promotes the stupid idea of “white privilege”.
People like him make me more and more sure that I chose my user name well.


58 posted on 04/13/2007 1:09:58 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: RedCell
...none of which are illegal. As opposed to lying to a policeman, or false accusations of rape, or in the case of Nifong, elimination of evidence that would work against the prosecution, or slander and libel. Now, after a year and some months, we begin to hear that the poor, poor exotic dancer suffers from being bipolar (which might have worked against her case, if it had been know a year ago) so gosh, we don't want to prosecute this poor woman, do we?

This is "Reverse Jim Crow"...two sets of laws, based on the color of your skin. And I thought that kind of thing was outlawed years ago!

59 posted on 04/13/2007 1:13:59 PM PDT by 50sDad (Cultural Diversity means never having to say "I don't fit in.")
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To: beeber

lolz


60 posted on 04/13/2007 1:15:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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