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Orson Scott Card: Honor
rhinotimes.com ^ | April 05, 2007 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 04/13/2007 7:18:36 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik

Amen and Amen.

Thanks for posting this. It added a few pounds of steel to a backbone of mine that had been wavering a bit.


101 posted on 04/13/2007 7:05:27 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: StarCMC; sionnsar; Slings and Arrows

My name is sionnsar and I am a dunderhead.

My name is Slings and Arrows, and I am a dunderhead.

My name is StarCMC and I am a dunderhead, too.

No your not! I never see you at the meetings, and checking the records I see you’re 6 months behind in your dues.


102 posted on 04/13/2007 8:06:15 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: schlockandflaws

Those indices are deliberately biased towards socialized economies. One of them is from the UN, for crying out loud!


103 posted on 04/13/2007 9:33:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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To: Tolik
And about Rwanda, where we did nothing to save the Hutus even though any display of force would have stopped the genocide.

Not e of correction:

It was the Tutsi who were being, massacred by the Hutus.

Aside form that, it was a remarkable , hoest essay.

Please note my tagline.

104 posted on 04/13/2007 9:37:20 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: TomSmedley
"I think we have to look at this in the context of the run-up to a civil war. There are two sides that see the world so radically differently that they truly believe that anyone who disagrees with them is evil or stupid or both. In that context, you really do find people who are will to kill. Or help those who want to kill." (p. 149)

I have a feeling that OSC's quote will be increasingly quoted as prescient in the years to come.

I couldn't agree more about the "Left Behind" series and most of contemporary Christian fiction.

It is bad prose.

Not comparable to C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, or even Bunyan.

105 posted on 04/13/2007 9:42:44 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: JRios1968
You can share my tagline.
106 posted on 04/13/2007 9:45:56 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: happygrl

How about the one I shall sport for a while? (Look below)


107 posted on 04/13/2007 9:48:10 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: Vicomte13
If we had wage war as you have suggested, we might also have persuaded Russia and China to throw in with us, as they also have Islamic insurgencies within their borders.

The Awakened Sleeping Giant would have put both those countries on notice that we could be fiercesome and not to be trifled with.

Our weak waging of this war has only encouraged both of them into adventurism and aiding the enemy.

Instead, President Bush's strategy offers us the Long War, where the advantage in information warfare, psycholgical warfare and assymetrical warfare are the opponents'.

I was expecting Shock and Awe when Iraq was invaded.

Instead we got a War managed by Lawyers.

We cannot win this way.

108 posted on 04/13/2007 10:12:05 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: happygrl
Sorry about the typos.

"Hoest" = honest.

Not calling this essay a ho.

Wouldn't be prudent.

109 posted on 04/13/2007 10:20:44 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: JRios1968

Oh my, what a tribute !


110 posted on 04/13/2007 10:21:31 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: happygrl

Only the best for the best!


111 posted on 04/13/2007 10:23:10 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Where’s your source that refutes what was posted?


112 posted on 04/13/2007 10:28:29 PM PDT by schlockandflaws
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To: Tolik

Wow!

Now THAT’S what I call a good article!


113 posted on 04/13/2007 10:33:33 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Tolik

Fantastic! bump.


114 posted on 04/13/2007 10:34:01 PM PDT by Carlucci
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To: schlockandflaws
It was refuted. The index stacks socialized economies.

Ex: If one is making a comparison of market and closed societies, than a method to determine employment is meaningless. If all persons are given or employed by the government, where’s the unemployment?

What does Norway do that the US doesn’t that gives them an HD Index advantage?

115 posted on 04/13/2007 10:47:52 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: schlockandflaws; endthematrix

I support endthematrix’s analysis at #115 without reservation.


116 posted on 04/13/2007 10:50:40 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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To: Slings and Arrows

How do you feel about US Government sources? The CIA World Factbook - GDP - per capita has the US in 10th place.
http://tinyurl.com/25u8lz

46th in life expectancy
http://tinyurl.com/2aeqdj

1st in purchasing power
http://tinyurl.com/2egrl4

and 2nd in external debt
http://tinyurl.com/237qug


117 posted on 04/13/2007 10:53:36 PM PDT by schlockandflaws
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To: schlockandflaws
The magic number there is “First in Purchasing Power.” Raw GDP is meaningless; the question is what you can buy with it.

External debt - w.r.t. quality of life, who cares?

46th in life expectancy? Factor out the underclass (who can afford to be so due to generous welfare benefits) and “uninvited guest workers,” and that goes up a lot. Furthermore, some of that is a result of prosperity - you don’t see too many famine victims dying of heart attacks. Furthermore, there are numerous ways to cook life expectancy statistics - and the worse the country, the more likely they are to do so.

118 posted on 04/13/2007 11:03:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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To: endthematrix

Ping to #118.


119 posted on 04/13/2007 11:04:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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To: schlockandflaws
"How do you feel about US Government sources?"

How do you? They rank rank 10th in reliability...

120 posted on 04/13/2007 11:15:04 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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