Posted on 04/12/2007 2:31:24 PM PDT by TitansAFC
You quoted McCain as saying, “Before I left for Iraq, I watched with regret as the House of Representatives voted to deny our troops the support necessary to carry out their new mission. Democratic leaders smiled and cheered as the last votes were counted. What were they celebrating? Defeat? Surrender? In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering." It's worth contrasting that with Giuliani's position:
But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr.Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further. And he has put the strategy in a broader context that plays down the importance of Iraq. Terrorists "are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq," Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that "there are no sure things, "and that if the United States fails in Iraq, "we have to be ready for that, too." In California a few days later, speaking of "the danger of focusing on Iraq too much," he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.
Giuliani has a hawkish image which does not seem to be entirely deserved.
ME: Well, nothing Giuliani said is necessarily objectionable on the merits, but I take your point: he is providing himself more wiggle room than McCain. Romney is basically striking the same tone as Giuliani, by the way.
I notice a distinct lack of talking about the actual post.
Link? That doesn’t indicate those people would vote for him anyway, merely that 4 in ten don’t trust him.
LOL. That’s when he’s not suspended :-)
Toodles.
our role there is transitional - Bush says that in every single speech he gives on iraq. we are helping them to stand up and secure themselves. we are doing the right thing. but there may be a practical limit to it. maybe they can’t survive as a unified country, who knows. and if that day comes, it has no bearing on the overall US strategy on securing itself from islamic terror post 9-11.
I’ve been watching with joy the beating you’ve taken, and how you’ve had to back off qquite a bit, too. ROFL!
He’s positioning himself to run away from the Battle of Iraq. He’s running for the doors and preparing to throw the American effort in Iraq under the bus....all to cover his own ass.
Perhaps you missed your Ritalin dosage for the day.
I love how the polls are unimportant and then when one of their unannounced, can’t win candidates gets a bump in the polls they get all excited. It’s so cute.
Have a good evening, Corin. I’m packing it in for the evening. Who knows; maybe by early next week Rudy will be at 65%.
Rudy the Paper Tiger.......
Rudy....tough on terror...
ROTFLMAO!
And that has what to do with what I said?
Geez, you didn’t even catch the joke your own teammate posted. Wow, you really love to lay it out there for all to see. You are too funny. Not in a humorous way, but in a really sad kind of way, like how people look at the kids in the mall in the wheelchairs with the drool dripping out of their mouths kind of funny way.
Yep, no link. Another lie. Nothing for ignorant Rudy cover-uppers.
Also, he’d have to reverse a serious trend to go back up in numbers.
don’t kid yourself - the pentagon has contingency plans for exactly the same thing. they would be crazy not to.
If he gets the nomination, we will see a battle between Giuliani and Hillary to decide who can promise to pull our troops out faster.
Of course, the weakling GOP will probably take him off the hook before the general election, but all the talk of Giuliani as the "national security" and "tough on terror" candidate is the same as portraying him as a fiscal conservative who'll appoint "strict constructionists", a big steaming pile of BS.
Or maybe he's accepting the reality that if Nancy and Harry get their way, that will already have happened before the 2008 elections.
I don't like the implication that we "can't win in Iraq." But Ultra I was off searching for a more solid quote than what is in the article.
But he's correct that the War on Terror will not be completely won or lost in Iraq.
Thanks. I'm reaching the bottle of the wine glass myself...
g'nite
Judging by that post, I'd say you are reaching the BOTTOM of the wine BOTTLE.
Oops...well actually this glass ~was~ the bottom of the bottle. But it's my only glass for the evening.
It's Rudy's implication. He's running for the exits, for what he calculates will be political gain.
Well, like...um...duh...
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