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1 posted on 04/12/2007 1:27:12 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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Dawkins’ post as professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford is funded by Hungarian-born Microsoft millionaire Charles Simonyi. His attacks on religion are frequent, and he set up a foundation in December to send atheist books and DVDs to schools in Britain and the United States.
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Sad....and sick.


2 posted on 04/12/2007 1:31:48 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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Interesting......waiting to see the usual suspects here......


3 posted on 04/12/2007 1:33:53 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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What am I missing? What was the nature of the debate? What would a Christian debate an atheist regarding? If they were debating something utterly faith based, that makes as much sense as saying Princess Di had anything to offer humanity before she took a spin with the Egyptian playboy or that Hillary Clinton has anything sensible to offer...ever.


4 posted on 04/12/2007 1:35:03 PM PDT by stevem
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Ol’ Dawkins oughta read St. Thomas Aquinas. God is the Prime Unmoved Mover. Our reason and experience tells us there is a beginning and end. e. g. the “Big Bang”, everything from nothing. The alternative is “plenum in a flux”, i.e., a perpetual motion machine. Anyone ever seen or experienced a perpetual motion machine? By the way, the idea goes back to the Greeks, as does nearly everything, to a fellow named Xenophanes.


5 posted on 04/12/2007 1:35:10 PM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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“As an Evolutionist, you won’t mind if my stronger organism sqeezes your neck until your biological processes cease.

Because, of course, science has nothing to say about that, except that my strenth trumps your weakness. Right?”


6 posted on 04/12/2007 1:35:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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“a longing for something beyond us” is easily satisfied by stretching a hand and grabbing a bottle. The trouble starts if one does not have a bottle. “Spirituosen” were specifically invented for the spiritual thirst. Look up Omar Khayyam for further guidance.


7 posted on 04/12/2007 1:36:08 PM PDT by GSlob
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Dawkins is just mad since he found out Mrs. Garrison used to be a man.


9 posted on 04/12/2007 1:37:52 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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I love how atheists are blind to the fact that they need to look in a mirror when they talk.


10 posted on 04/12/2007 1:39:25 PM PDT by Spacemonkey1023
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If atheistist simply lacked faith, there wouldn't be much to debate. They could shrug and say, "I believe in science. Computers work because science is real. I don't believe in God, because I don't see evidence for God."

But that's not what people like Dawkin say:

In his speech Dawkins said he had "disposed one by one" of arguments for God's existence, and believed it was "a form of child abuse" to assume children inherited their parents' religion "without consent".

The man has absolute faith that God is a false concept, and he wishes his faith to be a determining factor in how other people raise their children.

And that's what's wrong with atheism today. It's not about lack of faith. It's about hatred of God.

11 posted on 04/12/2007 1:41:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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bump


13 posted on 04/12/2007 1:43:36 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Huber
That is three

* ping * s

today mate, so I expect a cookie. ;0)

15 posted on 04/12/2007 1:44:32 PM PDT by Condor 63
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If you want, you can download the podcast of the debate from here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/books/article1570989.ece


18 posted on 04/12/2007 1:45:33 PM PDT by socrates_shoe
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Atheism is, in it’s own way, as faith-based as any other religion - we simply don’t know enough right now about the Universe to rule out the possibility of some creative force or being. Boils down to a debate between two religious people, neither of whom has any real proof to back up their core belief.


23 posted on 04/12/2007 1:58:37 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Life without belief in God is like a song without a tune.


29 posted on 04/12/2007 2:03:37 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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"Science and religion both attempt to answer the same questions - the difference is that religion gets the answers wrong," the atheist campaigner asserted.

I am amazed that Dawkins would say such a thing. Science and religion most definitely do not attempt to answer the same questions.

37 posted on 04/12/2007 2:28:02 PM PDT by Logophile
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Dawkins' book, like so many things described as 'consciousness-raising' by their proponents would be better described as 'consciousness-razing'.

Dawkins is one reason I really, really hope the folks making the Narnia movies don't touch a word of Puddleglum's speech to the Green Witch: it's a lovely distillation of the arguments against secularism that Lewis gave in full in his Abolition of Man.

39 posted on 04/12/2007 2:30:38 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Richard Dawkins is a religious fundamentalist.. a Zealot..
A fire baptised, snake bitten believer of the DNA GOD...
He shakes his ju-ju bag of bones and reptile claws..
Passing feathers over the heads of the terminally brain washed..

A Scientific Shaman.. of natural science..
The boy needs some serious prayer..

42 posted on 04/12/2007 2:39:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Side A mocks side B. Side B mocks side A in return.
And the level of public knowledge goes down yet another notch.


43 posted on 04/12/2007 2:41:02 PM PDT by spinestein (Resistance is futile!)
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Don’t confuse haters like Dawkins with facts, logic, or truth.


44 posted on 04/12/2007 2:45:49 PM PDT by TBP
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How does a priest prove God exists?
How does an atheist prove God does not exist?

Both will essentially rely on the same type of argument for they can find no sensible evidence to support either view. Hence, both argue on the mere faith of their beliefs.

Yet, the atheists seem to be winning in the courts claiming they want a separation of church and state. The courts are blind to the church of the atheists. Don't ask me particulars for the church of the atheists. Go to the ACLU, Ayn Rand, etc. to get details on the denominations. Some denominations, like the communists, have a whole system of commandments and altruistic rituals. Others, may be more like free spirits. It varies just as those churches founded upon a God.

The courts should throw the atheists out for violating the First Amendment.

47 posted on 04/12/2007 2:56:41 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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