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Commentary: What would Jesus really do?
CNN ^ | Apr 6, 2007 | Roland Martin

Posted on 04/06/2007 1:40:34 PM PDT by driftdiver

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

Ask the nonreligious what being a Christian today means, and based on what we see and read, it's a good bet they will say that followers of Jesus Christ are preoccupied with those two points.

Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial. Divorce? The divorce rate of Christians mirrors the national average, so that's no big deal.

The point is that being a Christian should be about more than abortion and homosexuality, and it's high time that those not considered a part of the religious right expose the hypocrisy of our brothers and sisters in Christianity and take back the faith. And those on the left who believe they have a "get out of sin free" card must not be allowed to justify their actions.

Many people believe we are engaged in a holy war. And we are. But it's not with Muslims. The real war -- ­ the silent war ­-- is being engaged among Christians, and that's what we must set our sights on.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; aids; antichristian; atheist; culturewar; goodfriday; grinchstoleeaster; ifitfeelsgooddoit; jesus; liberalbigot; poverty; religiousintolerance
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To: weegee
Great post weegee

These folks that claim Christians are obsessed, are in fact the obsessed ones themselves. Christians fight poverty, lack of medicine, divorce, whatever “other issues” the secularists want to claim we ignore, every day of every week, of every month, of every year. We do it by helping and making a difference, where it counts. None of those we help are demanding we stop by coming into Churches and trying to change doctrines or the Bible. Just because we do not put out a press release of every helping hand extended, does not mean it isn’t happening. Unlike those who promote homosexuality or abortion, those we help, WANT our help.

Divorce among Christians is stronger than ever as well. This article is pure projection.

61 posted on 04/06/2007 3:22:45 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Ok. I read all the posts and nobody said it.

What would Jesus do?

That’s easy. When he saw the people hungry, he multiplied the loaves and fish and fed them.

As soon as I can do that trick, no problem.


62 posted on 04/06/2007 3:26:09 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: dawn53
I heard an interesting quote one time about the phrase “What would Jesus do?”

The person said, “In the first place, we can’t really know what Jesus would do...because even when He was on earth He was never doing what His followers “thought” He should be doing.” Example, eating with publicans and sinners, pardoning the woman caught in adultury, etc.

The second point was, “And even if we knew what He would do...what makes us think we would do it.” His disciples certainly failed, and so would we. Even Paul said that the things that he wanted to do he didn’t and the things which he didn’t want to do he did.

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AGREE!

It’s rather presumptuous of fallible sinners to even dream that they could be Christ. At best we can imitate Him know we ALL fall short.

Isa.55:8-9

[8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

[9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The ugly truth is to “what would Jesus do” is we don’t know ... we can guess but as He states, His ways are NOT our ways. He’s got the WHOLE picture. He’s Perfect. We are not perfect or have the whole picture.

63 posted on 04/06/2007 3:35:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: driftdiver

“Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought.”

Materiel poverty as opposed to MORAL poverty!!!?

What moron thinks Jesus more despised the former rather than the latter!!!?????

As a matter of fact I doubt Jesus would recognize anything in America (and much of the world) as even REMOTELY approaching what He saw as deadly poverty. Much of it, where it exists today, is the result of political action.


64 posted on 04/06/2007 3:44:12 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: driftdiver

The guy is ignorant, a bigot, or both. Churches ranging from liberal to conservative maintain a vast array of social agencies and programs on behalf of the poor and the homeless, both here and worldwide.


65 posted on 04/06/2007 4:05:30 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: driftdiver

I think he does get it. He makes the point that Christianity is not a political agenda, it’s a matter of faith. It’s certainly not about apocalyptic cults masquerading as churches, hypocrites who make millions from donations while having a masseuse on the side, or Holy Roller types who care more about condemming others while claiming that only those who think and believe the way they do are going to get special treatment from the man upstairs.


66 posted on 04/06/2007 4:47:31 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals."-www.iowahwk.typepad.com)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

“I think he does get it. He makes the point that Christianity is not a political agenda, it’s a matter of faith.”

Christianity is about faith but the only issues he raises are with political agendas.


67 posted on 04/06/2007 5:47:17 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
As a layman studying to receive a master's in Christian communications, and the husband of an ordained minister

Someone hasn't read, 1 Corinthians 14:34, or 1 Timothy 2:12.

68 posted on 04/06/2007 6:14:35 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Lost Highway
This guy who calls himself "Roland Martin" is obviously not a Christian nor does he want to become one. So why is he asking these stupid questions?
69 posted on 04/06/2007 6:32:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: JSDude1
being a Christian is based upon the acceptance of Jesus blood for your salvation, now that blood (and the Holy Spirit) is what causes most Christians to “speak-up” when it comes to Abortion (Thou Shalt not commit murder), and Homosexuality (prohibited in Lev, Rom, Corin, other books).

What most persons do not grasp is that to be a Christian is to be both subject to the Law and freed by the Gospel. The Law is what God demands from us. The Gospel is what He has done for us. Both are intrinsic in discipleship to the Christ. There is no conflict here for real Christians, only for posers.

70 posted on 04/06/2007 6:38:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: driftdiver
When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

There are briefer ways of saying, "I'm 'way out of my depth, and have no idea what I'm writing about."

But perhaps not clearer.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG
Pyromaniacs

71 posted on 04/06/2007 6:43:18 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SmithL

I thought Roland Martin was a professional bass fisherman with his own TV show.


72 posted on 04/06/2007 6:45:15 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: driftdiver
Every survey done to date demonstrates that conservatives and Christians both give more to charity than non conservatives and non Christians and further that conservative Christians give more than non conservative Christians.

This debate is a straw man genereated by liberals to drive a wedge in the Christian community and break up the conservative block.

The effort is mirrored by move to drive a wedge between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives.

The twin forces of socialism and secularism are going all out to destroy the formidable base of the conservative movement, and with it our freedoms and our heritage.

The "christians" that abet this travesty are low indeed, they will however, receive unlimited face time in the media which is anti-christian.

73 posted on 04/06/2007 6:54:16 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: weegee

“Do as thou will shall be the whole of the law”

A very misunderstood statement, written by Aliester Crowley. I’m not a follower of his by any means but I do have more than a passing familiarity with his writing.

It doesn’t mean ‘do whatever you want including raping babies and small animals,’ it means ‘understand your True Will and follow it.’ Your ‘true will’ isn’t doing whatever you want without consequence, it means understanding your purpose and fulfilling it.


74 posted on 04/08/2007 12:21:38 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

“true will” leads to death, disease, hell, and many other problems, least of all Sin. I will rather take view of God, rather than man.


75 posted on 04/08/2007 9:15:36 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: Pietro

YES, my friend you are knowledgeable about and know the way the world works in our “post-modern” society..!


76 posted on 04/08/2007 9:17:22 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: bmwcyle

I vote for 6. (None of the above).


77 posted on 04/08/2007 9:19:58 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: JSDude1

‘“true will” leads to death, disease, hell, and many other problems, least of all Sin. I will rather take view of God, rather than man.’

There is a 100% correlation between people with your point of view and eventual disease and death, unless they die in an accident first.


78 posted on 04/08/2007 10:01:34 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Terriergal

WWJD?

Jesus wasn’t a role model. That reeks of works based salvation.

The issue we need to deal with is What Did Jesus Do!


79 posted on 04/08/2007 10:04:44 PM PDT by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: SkyPilot

Amen!!


80 posted on 04/08/2007 10:21:06 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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