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CIA 'Secretly Detaining' Al-Qa'eda Suspects (Ethiopia)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-5-2007 | Mike Pflanz

Posted on 04/04/2007 7:56:13 PM PDT by blam

CIA 'secretly detaining' al-Qa'eda suspects

By Mike Pflanz in Nairobi
Last Updated: 2:05am BST 05/04/2007

American intelligence agents are interrogating hundreds of al-Qa'eda suspects secretly imprisoned in Ethiopia, human rights organisations said yesterday.

The detainees, from 19 different countries, have allegedly been "illegally" deported to Ethiopia where they are being held in horrific conditions in crowded jails, notorious for torture and abuse.

They include women and children as young as seven months and were arrested in Somalia and Kenya as they fled December's rout of the Islamic Courts Union (ICU) around Mogadishu.

"We fear that many of the detainees will face mistreatment and possibly torture or execution in Ethiopian custody," said Peter Takirambudde, the executive director of the Africa division of Human Rights Watch.

"We have previously documented that Ethiopian forces routinely engage in torture of criminal, political and military detainees. All parties to the armed conflict in Somalia must abide by international law."

The New York-based organisation said that the governments of Kenya, Ethiopia and the US had "played a shameful role in mistreating people fleeing a war zone".

Georgette Gagnon, HRW's deputy Africa director, said "Kenya has secretly expelled people, the Ethiopians have caused dozens to 'disappear' and US security agents have routinely interrogated people held incommunicado."

An estimated 85 of the prisoners were secretly flown from Nairobi to Somalia, where they were handed to Ethiopian state forces who have controlled their Horn of Africa neighbour since invading on Christmas Eve. From there, according to investigations by HRW and others including the Muslim Human Rights Foundation in Nairobi, they were transferred to prisons in Addis Ababa.

Conditions are said to be "horrific", with a dozen detainees sharing a single 10ft by 10ft cell with little food and rare access to exercise areas.

None has been allowed to see their lawyers and none has been charged, despite being held for up to two months, investigators claim.

The US government denies that it ordered three late-night charter flights that carried the prisoners from Nairobi to Baidoa, the former seat of Somalia's interim government.

But the operations, the first of their kind in east Africa, have chilling echoes of the CIA's so-called "extraordinary renditions" of terror suspects to third-party countries for secret interrogations.

Officials in Washington yesterday acknowledged that their agents in the Horn of Africa, including in Addis Ababa, have questioned potential terror agents who may have been in Somalia fighting for the al-Qa'eda-linked Islamic Courts Union.

"While in custody of the foreign government, the FBI was granted limited access to interview certain individuals of interest," Richard Kolko, an FBI spokesman, told the Associated Press news agency.

"We do not support or participate in any system that illegally detains foreign fighters or terror suspects, including women and children."

Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman, refused to discuss details of the operations, but said: "To fight terror, the CIA acts boldly and lawfully, alone and with partners, just as the American people expect us to."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqueda; cia; ethiopia; islam; muhammadsminions; secretly
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1 posted on 04/04/2007 7:56:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I looked up this guy Peter Takirambudde. He seems to be more concerned about “human rights violations” in Ethiopia than in Sudan, although Sudan is a close second.

Ethiopia, thank God, is defending the region against Islamist terrorists. And if we’re helping them, so much the better.


2 posted on 04/04/2007 8:02:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

What about those Americans that were held in the World Trade Center Towers by the actions of those al-Qa’eda POS. I am sick and tired hearing about how bad the terrorist have it!


3 posted on 04/04/2007 8:04:05 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: blam

Not anymore. At least not the “secretly” part...


4 posted on 04/04/2007 8:06:51 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: blam

Sort of makes Gitmo sound like a luxury resort hotel.

Yet, the human rights organizations want Gitmo closed.

I don’t recall many human rights organizations decrying the way al-Qaeda has treated its prisoners.


5 posted on 04/04/2007 8:08:10 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cicero
In war, we often unintentionally kill innocent people. But so many of our critics would not even allow us to make life unpleasant for terrorists conspirators if it were up to them. It’s amazing.
6 posted on 04/04/2007 8:08:19 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: blam

After what Iran just put the Britons through, it’s hard to beleive any one of them would stick up for the murderous Islamasists...


7 posted on 04/04/2007 8:11:41 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: blam
they are being held in horrific conditions in crowded jails, notorious for torture and abuse

Like the ones they routinely hold perfectly innocent people in? So what's the problem? (And I don't believe for a second that the CIA is subjecting 7 month old babies to "torture and abuse".)

8 posted on 04/04/2007 8:14:29 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Cicero
Ethiopia, thank God, is defending the region against Islamist terrorists.

And it has done so for centuries

9 posted on 04/04/2007 8:15:35 PM PDT by fso301
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To: blam

Wow, I finally have something to be happy my tax dollars are being spent on.


10 posted on 04/04/2007 8:19:27 PM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: blam

I certainly hope so.


11 posted on 04/04/2007 8:20:06 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: blam
GREAT NEWS....AND THE PROBLEM IS....WE HAVEN'T CUT THIER HEADS OFF YET
12 posted on 04/04/2007 8:22:22 PM PDT by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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Conditions are said to be "horrific", with a dozen detainees sharing a single 10ft by 10ft cell with little food and rare access to exercise areas.>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oooops! The Dems are responsible for this, since they and the NYT outed the CIAs covert interrogation program, the CIA just gives the prisoners away.

Good job CIA! We are fulfilling a promise to hunt the vermin down and put them out of action, where ever they may be.

I love the sound of liberals whining in the morning.

13 posted on 04/04/2007 8:40:45 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: blam

Secretly detain them.

Secretly interrogate them.

Secretly torture them if you must.

Secretly put a bullet through their evil brains.

Secretly bury them deep, deep in the ocean.


14 posted on 04/04/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by RatRipper
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To: fedupjohn
"GREAT NEWS....AND THE PROBLEM IS....WE HAVEN'T CUT THIER HEADS OFF YET"

"If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die"

15 posted on 04/04/2007 8:50:24 PM PDT by Nova
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To: blam

This ain’t no disco. This ain’t no fooling around.


16 posted on 04/04/2007 8:55:57 PM PDT by marron
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International law in Somalia???? What a joke. I don’t suppose these scolds want to supply better food and lawyers, do they?


17 posted on 04/04/2007 9:01:51 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: blam

The “CIA” does thing “secretly?” Who wouldda thought....


18 posted on 04/04/2007 9:51:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: RatRipper

“Secretly bury them deep, deep in the ocean.”

Yes! One of my solutions is to build a ship(s) with a moveable bottom. Put the bad guys in the “basement” at deep sea, then move the bottom. Poof. Gone. Close the bottom, pump out the water and then head back to port for the next “package”.

It is very important not to keep records!


19 posted on 04/04/2007 9:55:57 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
US Hunts Al-Qa'eda Suspects Fleeing Somalia

Remember this post? Looks like they got some.

20 posted on 04/05/2007 5:58:19 AM PDT by blam
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