Posted on 03/31/2007 2:49:00 PM PDT by UKrepublican
Sailor Seizure 'Inexcusable' Updated: 22:33, Saturday March 31, 2007
Iran's seizure of 15 Royal Navy personnel has been described as "inexcusable behaviour" by US President George Bush.
In his first comments on the crisis, Mr Bush said he supported Britain's diplomatic efforts to get the captives back.
He said: "Iran must give back the hostages. They're innocent, they did nothing wrong, and they were summarily plucked out of water."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
I'm near positive.
The Iranians are stupid and crazy, but they're not that crazy.
Also, being as my government is likely to continue this banal approach, there will be no reason for it.
Yep, he certainly was grovelling. To surrender without a fight is always wrong, because the next time they will go after another crew and another because they know there will be no resistance. Fighting back is the only way to insure they don't keep trying to capture more sailors or soldiers. Pistols or slingshots, they should have fought back and the mother ship should have become involved. Didn't know they were captured until the iranian ship was back in Iranian waters? Who cares, the Iranians started the incident and Britain should have finished it, iranian waters or no.
Wimp out if you want but they should have fought back.
There is only so much you can do to be prepared as your own country has painfully learnt.
Can you not see that the British response so far is signaling weakness and giving a green light for more Islamic aggression? What's the downside for Iran so far?
What you don't do is what the Brits have evidently done is to forget they are the weakest party in this environment.
Our President went as far as calling it "inexcusable behaviour".
So what did the USA do differently when China took the aircrew for 13 days?
What is your point? Did I say America has responded flawlessly to every crisis? Are the circumstances identical?
Iran is not China. Iran is not one of the great economic, cultural and military powers of the world. Iran is merely a dangerous neighborhood bully that needs to be harshly reminded of it's status, before it becomes something more.
So you are admitting that context needs to be taken into account?
If that is so, then given the military capability of the UK in that region, the fact that the UK would be completely outgunned and the fact no-one knows where the hostages are - what specifically would you do differently?
Ya know...President Reagan was not this plastic saint so many folks on the right want to make him out to be. He was a great president in many ways, but he TURNED TAIL AND RAN FROM LEBANON when our Marine barracks were bombed. Had he been the thoroughly tough guy you and others portray, he would have cleaned out the terrorists instead of running from them.
Why do you keep saying they had only pistols, this is not true they also had SA-80 rifles. They should NEVER have been taken so easily in the first place. The Captain of HMS Cornwall should be court marshalled.
Handsome lad in that first photo.
Another knee-jerk blame-Bush response. What part of the following do you not understand?
1. The hostages are British.
2. Like all governments, the British government takes the lead in international incidents affecting their citizens -- in this case, their military.
3. President Bush must consult with Prime Minister Blair to determine what response, if any, the British government wants from the United States.
4. American meddling could actually make the situation worse.
That is total bullcr*p. Somewhere here in the last week or two it was posted how Reagan said there wasn't really any info at the time linking anyone to that bombing, and so there was no one to hit.
no offense gentlemen, but you are wasting your breath here responding to the ignorance of liberal trolls
at the very least, they behave like ignorant liberal trolls
anyone here who says america would have done this or america would have done that has an agenda, and that agenda doesn't include contributing anything intelligent to the debate...they are simply here to say i told you so and sow discord. so quit lowering yourselves to their level.
friendly advice !
the fact remains iran abducted some british sailors because the UK ROE don't permit defending themselves in a bloody war zone...big mistakes were made here, and lets hope that whoever it is that commands the British armed forces takes all the necessary measures to correct these mistakes.
perhaps those of you that are British citizens could take the time to write to your MP and express your displeasure at how your armed forces are commanded in the field ?
the reality is that there is little to no threat on the open seas from iraqi insurgents/terrorists, and the british navy was complacent, much to the chagrin of the 15 captives, no doubt, but also to the rest of the sane free world who find it deplorable that we can place any armed forces into the field with handcuffs on.
as for those of you monday morning quarterbacks who have expressed displeasure with your british allies for allowing this to happen, or for not immediately nuking and/or invading iran ? these are the same people who blame governments and presidents for hurricanes...mental midgets all.
so by all means, play poker or gin with these fools all you like, but don't be surprised when they are many cards short of a full deck.
hope those sailors are released soon ! i firmly believe iran needs to be bombed, but lets get those 15 home first, or exhaust all sane choices beforehand...grovel...human life is worth that, particularly in this instance when the people at the very top who make the decisions that exposed these sailors to abduction are the ones that need to be made accountable...grovel to the iranians...i have no problem with that...let them have their pyrrhic victory.
let them have their victory at home and their victory in the world press, like hezbollah and the lebanese did.
and then they can clean up the rubble around every military and nuclear installation and any industrial installation that supports these structures that they have ever built, all the while congratulating themselves. wally snackbar !
we can handle a little price increase when we fill our cars...small price to pay for the lives of 15 blameless sailors, and well worth every penny to see the persians get whats coming to them !
Cutting through all the chatter... concisely.
Compare this to the title that the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation uses in their story:
"Bush attacks Iran over captives"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514567.stm
No bias there!
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