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New LAPD flashlights are too small to be used as weapons (Disarm Police /Empower Criminals update)
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| March 31, 2007
Posted on 03/31/2007 1:15:09 PM PDT by Stoat
New LAPD flashlights are too small to be used as weapons LOS ANGELES The L-A-P-D has decided that smaller is better when it comes to flashlights.Police Chief William Bratton is scheduled to unveil new flashlights today that are brighter than the ones they use now, but too small to be used as a weapon. The idea for the new ten-inch torch was conceived just days after news cameras broadcast images of L-A-P-D officers beating a car-theft suspect with a two-pound, two-foot long standard issue flashlight. Bratton banned the large flashlights after the 2004 beating and called for manufacturers to create a smaller, brighter flashlight. A-C-L-U Southern California director Ramona Ripston praised the L-A-P-D for the equipment change. She says it's an "important step in the right direction." |
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; california; criminal; criminals; flashlight; flashlights; la; lapd; losangeles; pelican; police
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To: ansel12
For the civilians, a small, super bright, tactical flashlight, and a good knife can accomplish a lot in an unplanned nighttime encounter.
For this "civilian" a Kimber Compact would stand in for a knife.
And yes, I detest the police calling someone a civilian. My first question to the cop is which branch of the military are you serving in?
Cops seperating themselve from the population like that makes for a cop vs civilian situation that we don't need. How about us vs criminals.
Jack
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posted on
03/31/2007 10:13:31 PM PDT
by
btcusn
(Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
To: btcusn
I used civilian for short hand, I'm not a cop, and I share your view on the cop usage of the word, I just meant to imply those of us that don't have a gun on us.
My real advice there was meant for Californians and New Yorkers and such.
My concealed carry license is not good here in California, so I have to carry a fighting knife, combining a blinding flashlight with it can make a great difference.
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posted on
03/31/2007 10:23:13 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
To: Horatio Gates
"Amen brother. Doesn't leave marks, well not big ones"
Just the ticket for keeping uppity serfs in line.
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posted on
04/02/2007 10:16:47 AM PDT
by
VRing
(Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
To: Stoat
I'd rather get bopped with a Maglight than shot.
To: ozzymandus
I'd rather get bopped with a Maglight than shot.Agreed, a skull fracture is usually a bit less of a problem than a .357 +P+ hollowpoint in vital areas, although both can cause death. At the end of the day, I would prefer for our police officers to have as much useful weaponry as possible and for certain elements of the public to calm down just a bit, then they won't need to worry about being bopped on the head to begin with :-)
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posted on
04/02/2007 10:51:44 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: LanPB01; Stoat
Get the E2D Defender ... painfully bright, and has serrations around the bezel. I'd really not want to be hit with it.
Yes, I have one.
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posted on
04/02/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Stoat
The company I work for sells Streamlight flashlights. We used to sell a model SL-35, which was a large, hard alumimum-cased unit that, with the ni-cad battery pack, made quite a nice billy club when needed.
Unfortunately, the Police departments here did the same thing and went with the smaller, lighter flashlights.
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posted on
04/02/2007 10:56:55 AM PDT
by
reagan_fanatic
(I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
To: ArrogantBustard
Get the E2D Defender ... painfully bright, and has serrations around the bezel. I'd really not want to be hit with it. Surefire E2D Executive Defender® - E2D-BK available from SureFire
SPECIFICATIONS
Max Output: 60 lumens
Runtime: 1.25 hours
Length: 4.85 Inches
Weight: 3.20 Ounces
Battery: Two 123A Lithium
FEATURES
- Rugged aerospace-grade aluminum body, Mil-Spec Type III hard anodized in black
- O-ring sealed, weatherproof
- Extra-thick tempered Pyrex® window
- Pocket clip
- Tailcap switch: press for momentary-on, press further to click constant-on
- Switch lockout prevents accidental activation during transport or storage
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Looks very nice, thanks! :-)
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posted on
04/02/2007 11:03:03 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: reagan_fanatic
The company I work for sells Streamlight flashlights. We used to sell a model SL-35, which was a large, hard alumimum-cased unit that, with the ni-cad battery pack, made quite a nice billy club when needed.
Unfortunately, the Police departments here did the same thing and went with the smaller, lighter flashlights.It's very troubling, this business of our police being gradually disarmed. These changes are brought about by liberal Chiefs of Police who aren't policemen anymore, they are politicians. And they bend to the will of local city councils which, all too often, are filled with liberal elitists who live in gated communities with impenetrable security, and so they don't have to think about crime in their own lives anyway.
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posted on
04/02/2007 11:07:40 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
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posted on
04/02/2007 11:15:22 AM PDT
by
kildak
To: Stoat
More likely .40 S&W, I don't know department policies on +P+ ammo. Some departments specify a pud load.
To: VRing
Just the ticket for keeping uppity serfs in line. If by "uppity serfs" you mean people where probable cause exists for their arrest and they are resisting arrest or being assaultive then yes, the taser can be just the ticket. I've been tased. I've been clubbed. I prefer the former fwiw
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posted on
04/02/2007 12:31:58 PM PDT
by
Horatio Gates
(Oleoresin capsicum: WOT Protestor tested. Cop approved.)
To: kildak
357 +P+?I may well be out of date with this expression....it used to be that the "+P" and "+P+" designations indicated a high-power load, oftentimes expressed on the retail box as "Police Ammunition". and the "+P" designation stamped on the cartridge rim It may well be that this expression isn't in current use anymore, although I'm seeing it shown as a result of a web search for "+P Ammo".
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posted on
04/02/2007 3:50:00 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: ozzymandus
More likely .40 S&W, I don't know department policies on +P+ ammo. Some departments specify a pud load.Sorry I'm out of date....I was reaching back 30+ years from memory when my dad was a policeman.
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posted on
04/02/2007 3:52:08 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Doctor Raoul
As if the police were not allowed to have weapons? There will come a day when the PC left will call for cops to patrol without guns.
From reading the British press, it seems that the police there have a multi-tiered system....when they are in a situation that may require the use of deadly force, they have to call in a specially-trained and equipped 'gun officer' to take care of things. More wasted time and lives as well as expense to the already burdened British taxpayer, but that's Socialism for you.
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posted on
04/02/2007 4:10:37 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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