Are You Concerned About Mitt Romney's Faith?

LDS.org ^ | 3/31/07 | Reaganesque

[Radix]

I think that Governor Romney should not have signed any Bill on Government sponsored Health Care ......Period.

That is what I think!

You can explain your opinion to anybody else anywhere, anytime, anyhow.

It was simply wrong IMHO, and it was a serious faux pas by Mitt, and certainly his handlers for not talking him out of it.

I'm not going to be talked out of that position. I live here, and I'm pissed off about it.

Do you want to argue that point with me? OK, sure, just take a number.

[Old_Mil]

We are losing millions of female voters over this [abortion] issue.

Fifty-one percent of women surveyed by the Center for the Advancement of Women said the government should prohibit abortion or limit it to extreme cases, such as rape, incest, or life-threatening complications...Only 30 percent support making it generally available.

From the Washington Times.

So you see, if we are losing millions of voters, it's only because we're countenancing more liberal candidates.

[restornu]

The point of that health care program was to get people off of medicaid.

To save all that money being used in medicaid
Click on #2 Redstate for the health care plan!
http://www.votemittromney.us/mp3.asp

[TheLion]

Since no one can stop abortion, why make it a political issue? Can you explain that? Countless American women vote for democrats over abortion and the environment.

The latest Al Gore surge on global warming is aimed at nothing less than voters.

[TheLion]

It wasn't Government sponsored health care, it was insurance covered health care.

[Radix]

Mitt should have let the democrats here sign off on this nonsense.

I'm OK with Mitt being the next President. I like the idea. He'd be good.

Certainly he is better than anybody else who is currently likely to get a shot at it.

It would be a mistake to defend this horrible Law that he signed off on.

I understand that he is being falsely labeled as a flip flopper.

Still, he needs to rid himself somehow of this baggage.

It will kill him in the primaries, but curiously not in the general election.

He's taken/taking a great gamble here.

If I were a so called "red stater" I would not vote for him.

[TheLion]

Are we suddenly going to do away with gays? They are a very solid part of our country now. Are you some sort of bigot?

[NavyCanDo]

NOPE. Ronald Reagan did not beat us over the head with his faith, did he?

[gitmo]

No.
I've already studied LDS.

[Old_Mil]

Since no one can stop abortion, why make it a political issue?

It wasn't an issue until the left engineered a court case that forced a single unilateral abortion standard on the entire nation. The fight is to have that overturned so that disparate parts of the country can go back to deciding what is right for them on the abortion issue. In such a scenario, New York can go right on ahead aborting its kids while South Dakota acts to save theirs. Countless American women vote for democrats over abortion ...

A significantly smaller "countless" than voted for Republicans over abortion it would seem.

[Old_Mil]

Are we suddenly going to do away with gays?

You certainly have a knack for putting words in peoples' mouths. Nobody said anything about "doing away" with them. The point being that if a 2%er such as your neighbor has praise for Romney, obviously Romney hasn't done what he should as a conservative. They are a very solid part of our country now. Are you some sort of bigot?

Well, I simply disagree with these statements. As far as being "bigoted", call me "homonauseous". If that makes me a bigot in your eyes, I could care less.

[TheLion]

Every voter counts. Since you will not be able to overturn abortion, why not get their vote and work on them with logic?

[Old_Mil]

why not get their vote and work on them with logic?

Because getting "their vote" involves surrendering our position. That's no way to win a victory. Also, if you'll note, that article shows the prevailing position among women becoming more strongly pro-life. Therefore your assertion that Roe v. Wade won't be overturned is a false one.

[restornu]

Orginally abortion was done because of the taboo somehow that has been forgotten and moved to women's rights and a bunch of other B.S., instead of the stigma a women at that time suffered which today is no longer the case!

How these lairs on the left twist this thing and the ones that are upset about this, are over the hill and can't have children and the younger generation no longer cares one way or the other, only when the devilish old hags whisper in their ears!

[restornu]

I believe it will get over turn and I believe if Romney was president that he would select judges like Bush did to get the job done, our big optical is to make sure the House and Senate are in line with this agenda!

[gitmo]

Since no one can stop abortion, why make it a political issue? Can you explain that?

You're partly right. Only by putting real judges in the courts can we reverse this "law".

However, the issue can serve as a quick way of weeding out a lot of people who proclaim wisdom, but don't know right from wrong. Of course, you can be anti-abortion and still lack that ability, but it filters out most of them.

Someone who cannot discern the two should not be in the White House.

[msnimje]

How could any US citizen possibly be upset with a Religion that produces such fine and patriotic citizens?

[jch10]

No.

[Jeff Head]

What Elder Talamge was simply saying is that through the Resurrection, all men, good and bad, will rise again and be resurrected. "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

But, in our risen state, we shall also be judged of God and based on our acceptance of Christ's atonement for sin, our eternal destiny will be determined.

In order to return to our Father in Heaven and "go to Heaven", we teach that we must, as a free will decision of our own, accept Christ's atonement. No other path will do, nothing else will suffice...He must become our personal Saviour.

Most of christendom teaches that there is indeed a pre-set condition for the Atonement of individual sins to be effective, and that is acceptance of the Lord's atonement and sacrifice.

The LDS Church teaches this. We believe that a person who sincerely does so will also have the desirte to do as Christ taught..."if ye love me, keep my commandments"...but it is critical not to get the horse before the cart in that regard. Christ's atonement saves, and then we follow His will.

Anyhow, these tennants are basic Christian tennants and though interpretation and knowledge about other principles varies, the essential teaching that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Redeemer, and that we must accept His sacrifice and redemption and atonement in our lives in order to return to God, and that a person who sincerely does so will take upon them His countenance and image and try to live as he lived...that is the same, and that is the essence of what it means to be a Christian.

[Vinnie]

no