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Passengers Sued Over Imams' Removal
AP ^ | March 30, 2007 | PATRICK CONDON

Posted on 03/30/2007 1:45:40 PM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 03/30/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Six Muslim men removed from a plane last fall after being accused of suspicious behavior are suing not only the airline but the passengers who complained — a move some fear could discourage travelers from speaking up when they see something unusual.

The civil rights lawsuit, filed earlier this month, has so alarmed some lawyers that they are offering to defend the unnamed "John Doe" passengers free of charge. They say it is vital that the flying public be able to report suspicious behavior without fear of being dragged into court.

"When you drive up the road towards the airport, there's a big road sign that says, `Report suspicious behavior,'" said Gerry Nolting, a Minneapolis lawyer. "There's no disclaimer that adds, `But beware if you do that, you might get sued.'"

The six imams were taken off a Phoenix-bound US Airways flight on Nov. 20 while returning home from a conference of Islamic clerics in Minneapolis.

Other passengers had gotten nervous when the men were seen praying and chanting in Arabic as they waited to board. Some passengers also said that the men spoke of Saddam Hussein and cursed the United States; that they requested seat belt extenders with heavy buckles and stowed them under their seats; that they were moving about and conferring with each other during boarding; and that they sat separately in seats scattered through the cabin.

The plane was cleared for a security sweep, nothing was found, and the jet took off without the imams.

The Muslim clerics say they were humiliated, and are seeking unspecified damages from the airline, the Minneapolis airport and, potentially, the John Does.

Omar Mohammedi, the New York City attorney for the imams, said the intent is not to go after passengers who raise valid concerns about security. But he suggested some passengers may have acted in bad faith out of prejudice.

"As an attorney, I have seen a lot of abuse by the general public when it comes to members of the community creating stories that do not exist," Mohammedi said.

He denied the imams were talking about Saddam, and said that their seats were assigned and that they requested extenders because their seat belts didn't fit.

Some fear such lawsuits could weaken what has become the first line of defense against terrorism since Sept. 11 — an alert public. At airports and train and subway stations around the country, travelers are routinely warned to watch for unattended bags and suspicious activity and to notify authorities.

Ellen Howe, spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, which oversees security at all U.S. airports, would not comment specifically on the imams' lawsuit. But she said the TSA counts on passengers to help the agency do its job.

"`See something, say something' is certainly a common mantra in this day and age," Howe said. "We would always remind passengers to be both vigilant and thoughtful."

In reaction to the imams' lawsuit, Congress has taken steps to legally protect passengers who report suspicious activity. Earlier this week, the House approved an amendment to a rail transportation security bill that would make passengers immune from such lawsuits, unless they say something they know is false.

Mohammedi said he has not yet identified any of the complaining passengers. An airport police report listed a passenger and two US Airways employees as complaining about the imams. All three had their names blacked out before the lawsuit was filed by invoking a Minnesota law that allows it, airport spokesman Pat Hogan said.

Nolting said he has been contacted by several potential John Does.

Passenger Pat Snelson, who lives in a Twin Cities suburb, said he and his wife were not among those who reported suspicious behavior. But he said his wife noticed the men praying, and he saw them moving around the cabin while others were boarding.

"These guys were up to no good," Snelson said. "We think the airport people did a real good job in taking care of it."

Bomb-sniffing dogs examined the men and their baggage. FBI agents and other federal law enforcement officers questioned the men for several hours before releasing them.

Billie Vincent, a former director of security for the Federal Aviation Administration, said he is troubled by the mere attempt to identify the passengers who raised concerns.

Airline passengers "are your eyes and your ears," said Vincent, who now owns an aviation security company. "If attorneys can get those names and sue them, you put a chilling effect on the whole system."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: cair; flyingimams; imans; islam; johndoe; lyingimams; minnesota; muhammadsminions; muslim
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
This bill was voted on in the House on March 27, 2007. 121 democRATs voted against this bill:

HR 1401

141 posted on 03/30/2007 11:02:33 PM PDT by nutmeg (The Democrats' "new direction" for Iraq: SURRENDER)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Sorry... in my previous post, I meant to reference this article from The Washington Times, dated March 24, 2007:

Hill Bill Protects Flying Public (Flying Imams Protection)

142 posted on 03/30/2007 11:08:24 PM PDT by nutmeg (The Democrats' "new direction" for Iraq: SURRENDER)
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To: USMCPOP
If it's a meal flight, always order a Kosher meal, just in case. The when they see you have something different, tell 'em you "always order the Kosher stuff" because, nudge nudge, wink wink, "you never know if there's pork in the regular meals".

Nice one! And be sure to wait until your suspicious seatmate has finished his meal before confiding your doubts about porkiness.

143 posted on 03/31/2007 12:30:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: hophead
Shoot the suspicious Muslims first, ask questions next.

Aw, common, get your priorities straight.

Double tap the lawyers first...

Sheeeesh, you hopheads are out to lunch too much of the time.

144 posted on 03/31/2007 2:18:21 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: rawhide
Next will come physical intimidation.

Inch by inch, little by little, they probe and push.

145 posted on 03/31/2007 3:34:01 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: rawhide

The passengers should assert a $1 million counterclaim against each of the Imams for intentional infliction of emotional distress. I'm very series.


146 posted on 03/31/2007 3:54:09 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: HungarianGypsy; MissEdie

There is some sort of law (cannot recall it's name) which protects people from retaliatory lawsuits if they are complaining to government authorities. Presumably that would include the airplane captain and his staff.

IIRC it even includes provisions for punitive damages.


147 posted on 03/31/2007 4:55:56 AM PDT by angkor
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To: rawhide
a move some fear could discourage travelers from speaking up when they see something unusual..............

Speaking Up? If these POS were making anyone uncomfortable, I would treat them like I would any group of teenage gangbangers. People should just starting carrying canes in airports. I have a rather nice model, fitted with a brass tip and otherwise innocuous.

148 posted on 03/31/2007 5:09:21 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: Txsleuth
Wow Tex, that statute should take care of it.
149 posted on 03/31/2007 5:10:35 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: USMCPOP
God bless you.
I read your homepage...

..A fine son and a hero!...Bless you.
May God comfort you, sir.
Thank-you for being at Free Republic.

150 posted on 03/31/2007 5:20:01 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: racing fan

they are muslim scum....

If they sue, I think I will go out and find the wealthiest gated community and walk up and down the streets at night with a tire iron and a ski mask.

If the police harrass me for walking up and down the street at midnight with a ski mask on, I will sue them. And any homeowners that report me will be sued as well.


151 posted on 03/31/2007 5:44:39 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: eartotheground
I believe pardons apply yo criminal matters, not civil.
152 posted on 03/31/2007 5:48:42 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
What the passengers did not realize was that the game from the beginning was to act suspicious, get thrown off the plane, raise hell and sue.

Yup. And the result will be guaranteed immunity by law for all who speak up in the future. The passengers may not have known what the game was, but they will win it convincingly.

153 posted on 03/31/2007 6:55:06 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: samadams2000
And wearing a T-shirt that says
The only good Muslim is a dead one!
154 posted on 03/31/2007 7:11:57 AM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY CALENDARS ARE THE BEST WAY TO RID US OF THE CLINTONS!!!)
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To: samadams2000

Islam is a scourge


155 posted on 03/31/2007 7:16:00 AM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do" -- The Edge)
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To: MissEdie
I hope those passengers countersue them

They should. Barratry?

156 posted on 03/31/2007 8:05:15 AM PDT by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Albion Wilde

We had a Muslim guy at work who was from Bangladesh. One day, everyone brought a dish for lunch. He was eating something and asked what was in it. A lady replied "hamburger". He spit that stuff halfway across the room :)


157 posted on 03/31/2007 8:15:09 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: rawhide

When are we going to stop this pc BS and start suing the friggin muslims when they pull crap like those imams did?


158 posted on 03/31/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by CottShop
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To: All

Since the muslims and their lawyers are a bunch of morons they'd fall for this.

How about we flood the offices with names like "I.P. Freely" as the names of the passengers.

I'm only half joking.


159 posted on 03/31/2007 8:59:30 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Sad sad sad that's all I have to say about Kerry Wood's career ending.)
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To: rawhide

"if attorneys can get those names and sue them..."

give punks the power to be punks and they'll be punks every time.


160 posted on 03/31/2007 9:34:38 AM PDT by ripley
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