Posted on 03/29/2007 6:58:58 AM PDT by meg88
For the past few days, movement "conservatives" and GOP cheerleaders have been ecstatic that Fred Thompson, former senator from Tennessee, may form an exploratory committee to seek the GOP nomination for president. "Now we'll have a conservative in there," said one person, who, I assume, has no idea what a real conservative is.
There already are two fine conservative candidates seeking the nomination: Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo. And Fred Thompson does not even come close measuring up to them.
Fred Thompson is a neocon globalist.
First and foremost, let's look at immigration. A third-world invasion of the USA is taking place, and it is up to patriots to stop it.
As Jean Raspail taught us in Camp of the Saints, "the greatest conservative novel ever written," we can fight back and reverse the invasion, or we can watch the West be destroyed.
Although Fred Thompson is tougher than McCain and Giuliani on border enforcement, which isn't saying much seeing how they line up with Barack Obama, he had a rather lackluster record on immigration while in the Senate.
As one commentator notes: "Overall, Americans for Better Immigration gives [Thompson] a career grade of C; on chain migration, C; visa lottery, C-; reducing unnecessary visas, F; on reducing asylum fraud, C-; on reducing amnesties, D; and on interior enforcement, C+. Although he was tough on border control, he was lacking in almost every other area." [1]
Fred Thompson also supports affirmative action, and ideologically worships free trade, regardless how much it harms America. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, but Thompson, like others, has been "neoconned" into backing it.
He furthermore is a "fellow" at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the largest neocon think-tanks, which demonstrates where his true loyalty lies. If you did not receive the Burkean memo, the transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. There is not a single thing conservative about the membership of AEI. They are neocon / neoliberal globalists.
Why are neoncons backing Thompson? Ideally, being ex-Trotskyites themselves, neocons would prefer a liberal candidate, like McCain, Giuliani or Romney. But they see that conservatives deplore these candidates, and now are going to try to peddle Fred Thompson, who is just socially conservative enough and just tough enough on the borders, even if it is feigned, to woo naive GOP voters. But let's hope this nefarious neocon plot fails.
Let's pray that the more real conservatives learn about Fred Thompson, the more unacceptable he will appear
I dream of a TV debate between Fred and Mrs. Bill Clinton.
D; and on interior enforcement
Baf-d, bad.
Evidence, please?
I can find three votes by Fred regarding affirmative action, and it's a mixed bag:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
On the other hand, he has resisted the efforts to make gays a special protected class:
Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
I'd say Fred's a wash here.
See post 44 - evaluation of votes from the website On the Issues
Ron Paul? Really?
Ise Fred Thompson beating Hellary in Ohio, Penn. and Florida?
Fred Thompson was out of the Senate before illegal immigration hit the fan. His term was up in 2002/3.
The larger "fish or cut bait" positions on immigration came in about 2004/5. (Not that it hadn't been an issue up to that point, but not with the conservative intensity it now has.)
In short, Thompson gets to spell out his position. I'm expecting him to stake out a real fence/real enforcement type of position.
I don't get why anybody supports Paul and Tancredo over Hunter. Hunter isn't "perfect" to them, but he's awfully darn close to it. I really thought that Hunter would end the asperations of at least Tancredo.
ROFL! Good news! They're getting worried now....
Run Fred Run!
The few, the proud, the perpetually angry one percent.
"We have an enemy that wants to destroy us and Ron Paul wants to hunker down here and wait for that enemy to come to us ...again."
Any politician that advocates that is an idiot at the very least.
Isolationism died as a viable concept the day the first passenger air craft crossed an ocean.
But I don't see the Hunter campaign making the early traction needed to organize around the internet activists that is Hunter's core of support now. He's still my first choice, but I'm damn glad that we might have a decent fallback in Fred, because I'm well aware that Hunter is a longshot.
Now I know that this word used by a liberal is a way to say Jew without using the word. So would someone tell me what a neocon is to a conservative.
Crabs in a barrel.
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