Posted on 03/26/2007 4:04:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
posted 5:21 pm EDT A D V E R T I S E M E N T A D V E R T I S E M E N T
The latest USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, on the presidential race is out, and it's a humdinger. It's hard to say what the headline even is. Here are a few tries, though:
* Romney's support drops to within the margin of error of not existing (that's 3% support in a poll where the margin of error is 3%).
* Giuliani's support drops 13 percentage points since the last USA Today/ Gallup poll, March 2-4 (that's gotta hurt).
* Fred Thompson (not running, by the way) is now the No. 3 in the GOP field, at 12%.
Read the whole story at NYSunPolitics.com.
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
Count me in as one of those 13%. If Thompson gets serious about running, then I will definitely get serious about Thompson.
My first reaction is that the collective political knowledge of all those polled probably would all fit into a thimble. What do these polls really mean?
Polls have become the equivalent of politic ads, or, to put them down even more, the equivalent of blubs on the back of a book.
Have you always been a liberal or did you have a recent conversion?
Hi Rockin,
Don't know if you are right on that or not--but you'll get credit for your .02
I am particularly interested in their positions on border security/illegals. What to do with the situation as it exists and how to control it going forward.
It wasn't a reply to my post; this person keeps pinging me to articles I don't wish to be pinged to.
But carry on being an idiot. It's what we've come to expect from you on this forum and I'd hate to see you disappoint people now.
LOL. Do a snake dance, and pray for rain. Maybe it will work for you, and what you wish upon a star, will become true. Keep hope alive.
Do you really think that Rudy is as undisciplined as Dean, in your heart of hearts? You can tell me; I won't tell.
LOL.
Actually I agree with you about condensing. I'd like to see the forum go back to telling all of us to stop posting spam but until then, when I see anti Rudy spam and I'm in the mood, I'll post my extremely long pro Rudy spam.
It's all a waste of bandwidth, imo, but since the spam rule isn't being enforced, I like to see just a tad of balance to the anti-Rudy stuff.
"What does it all mean? Partly, that polls this early swing wildly based on name recognition. But also that — and this may end up being quite important as the race wears on — John McCain's numbers do not seem to be as susceptible to wild fluctuations as those of some of the other candidates. Conservatives, and Republicans generally, don't like him. But they basically know who he is, they know what they thought of him yesterday, and they know what they'll think of him tomorrow."
if his poll numbers don't move down, they also don't move up. McCain is toast, as everyone on this side has known for a long time.
Uh, hello? Narses, you pinged me to this thread. I didn't post to you. Get your facts straight.
Amazing how everyone readily believes these polls put out by the left.
Are you kidding? Playing piano in a whorehouse is more honorable than "working" in the Senate. The fact that Thompson chose to walk away from that snake pit is one of his most appealing characteristics.
My tentative sense is that unless Rudy self implodes (unlikely) Fred Thompson is the only tangibly realistic roadblock to Rudy. Thompson if he is focused and disciplined, and gets in somewhat sooner than the fall, could derail Rudy. I don't see any other GOP candidate doing that, at the moment.
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor
Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch
The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001
As Delivered
Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.
As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.
So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.
I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.
[Applause]
In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html
But carry on being an idiot.
But carry on being an idiot.
But carry on being an idiot.
But carry on being an idiot.
This is what Rudybots call debate. Namecalling.
NARAL = Nazis = you lose. Pathetic really. Why is it impossible for some to disagree and make an argument based on their own values, without pressing the button and going nuclear?
Angry archivists and historians denounced the unprecedented hijacking of public property to private hands. Tom Connors, of the Society of American Archivists, said the transfer seemed part of a movement to "create barriers to the American citizen's right to know what their governments are doing."
The families of the police and fire rescuers who died in the attack balked at Giuliani's plan to take up to a year to dole out the money, with his new organization billing $2.2 million in anticipated administrative expenses (including six-figure salaries for friends he appointed as officers). The families argued that the fire union had far more quickly distributed $111 million with an estimated administrative cost of just $30,000.
Under embarrassing pressure from the victims' families, unions and state Attorney General Elliot Spitzer, Giuliani backed down. He promised to distribute the money within 60 days and fund his overhead from new donations. The families of the deceased rescuers, the real heroes of the September 11 attacks, received a one-time benefit of about $230,000 each from the Giuliani-privatized fund in 2002. That year, the former mayor earned some $8 million in speaking fees alone, more than $650,000 per month.
New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicans—four of them illegal—abducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.
On the issues: Liberal Party endorsement of Giuliani
National Review: Rockefeller quote
New York Observer: Reagan Republican quote
New York Observer: Republican convention quote
New York Observer: Goldwater quote
Nazis here, Nazis there, Nazis, Nazis everywhere.
NARAL = Nazis
Yep. Sanger and Adolf, they was tight. If that bothers you, imagine how the Jews in the death camps or the babies killed daily in Sanger's abortion mills feel.
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