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Democrat-led House votes to surrender in Iraq
CSPAN | 3/23/07

Posted on 03/23/2007 9:42:37 AM PDT by pabianice

Dems vote for defeat, plus $124B in pork to its reps.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boobsforbrains; democraptraitors; dhimmicrats; enemywithin; iraq; piglousy; traitors
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To: Elyse
It's the "my way or the highway stay-at-home" ideologues who brought to this place.
101 posted on 03/23/2007 10:26:28 AM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: Pub Linkser--80

House Dems "Plan" for Iraq

video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7xo_ij9kU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair%2Ecom%2Farchives%2F2007%2F03%2F23%2Fbreaking%2Dhouse%2Dpasses%2Diraq%2Dtimetable%2F


102 posted on 03/23/2007 10:28:14 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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To: Pub Linkser--80; Peach; Mo1
Jones is a good man, but if I recall correctly, he has a U of North Carolina campus in his district or close to it. So he has libs attacking him on Iraq.

Well boo-hoo, cry me a river. Either Jones is a dumb as a box of rocks or lazy as sin and won't get any real news about Iraq. Or he's just another RINO addicted to his DC cocktail party circuit. Or both. With milque-toasty wimps like this the enemy has very little that it has to accomplish on it's own.

POS RINO's. He probably has some huge $$ hiding in that mountain of pork.

103 posted on 03/23/2007 10:28:28 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am PRO-VICTORY!!)
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To: savedbygrace
I don't see many of them on this thread bemoaning this sad turn of events. If you don't support the candidates who can win, you can't complain about the results.
104 posted on 03/23/2007 10:28:42 AM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: pabianice
If Rove is still half-competent, he'll go to town on this.

Bush will veto, the Senate will refuse override. The Dims will be forced to entirely defund the military or they'll negotiate and give Bush what he wants: continued funding, no withdrawal date. And Bush will get what he wants and the Dims will get a black eye with their anti-war Lefties.
105 posted on 03/23/2007 10:29:49 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: bnelson44

Here is a partial list of what it took to buy the votes

Here is a partial list of the smoked bacon on the Iraqi supplemental bill listed at the Club for Growth website:

Aquaculture Operations: Provides $5 million for payments to "aquaculture operations and other persons in the U.S. engaged in the business of breeding, rearing, or transporting live fish" (such as shellfish, oysters and clams) to cover economic losses incurred as a result of an emergency order issued by the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service on October 24, 2006.

Spinach: Provides $25 million for payments to spinach producers that were unable to market spinach crops as a result of the FDA Public Health Advisory issued on September 14, 2006.

Hurricane Citrus Program: Provides $100 million to provide assistance to citrus producers (such as orange producers) in the area declared a disaster related to Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

NASA: Provides $35 million to NASA, under the "exploration capabilities" account, for "expenses related to the consequences of Hurricane Katrina."

Corps of Engineers: Provides $1.3 billion to Corps of Engineers for continued repairs on the levee system in New Orleans.

FEMA: Provides $4.3 billion for disaster relief at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). The bill would eliminate the state and local matching requirements for certain FEMA assistance (in connection with Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, Wilma, and Dennis) in the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, and Florida, and provides that the federal portion of these costs will be 100%.

HUD Indian Housing: Provides $80 million in tenant-based rental assistance for public and Indian housing under HUD. Crop Disaster Assistance: Provides roughly $3 billion in agriculture assistance to crop producers and livestock owners experiencing losses in 2005, 2006, or 2007 due to bad weather.

Shrimp: Provides $120 million to the shrimp industry for expenses related to the consequences of Hurricane Katrina.

Frozen Farmland: Provides $20 million for the cleanup and restoration of farmland damaged by freezing temperatures during a time period beginning on January 1, 2007 through the date of enactment.

Milk Income Loss Contract (MILC) Program: Provides $283 million for payments under the MILC program, to extend the life of the program for one year, through September 30, 2008. MILC provides payments to dairy farmers when milk prices fall below a certain rate.

Peanut Storage Subsidies: Provides $74 million to extend peanut storage payments through 2007. The Peanut Subsidy Storage program, which is set to expire this year, pays farmers for the storage, handling, and other costs for peanuts voluntarily placed in the marketing loan program.

FDA Office of Women's Health: Provides $4 million for the Office of Women's Health at the Food and Drug Administration.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA): Provides $60.4 million for fishing communities, Indian tribes, individuals, small businesses, including fishermen, fish processors, and related businesses for assistance related to "the commercial fishery failure." According to the Committee Report, this funding is to be used to provide disaster relief for those along the California and Oregon coast affected by the "2006 salmon fishery disaster in the Klamath River."

Avian Flu: Provides $969 million for the Department of HHS to continue to prepare and respond to an avian flu pandemic. Of this funding, $870 million is to be used for the development of vaccines.

Secure Rural Schools Act (Forest County Payments): Provides $400 million to be used for one-time payments to be allocated to states under the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act of 2000. This program provides a funding stream (known as forest county payments) to counties with large amounts of Bureau of Land Management land, in order to compensate for the loss of receipt-sharing payments on this land caused by decreased revenue from timber sales due to environmental protections for endangered species. The authorization for these forest county payments expired at the end of FY 2006, and counties received their last payment under the Act in December 2006.

LIHEAP: Provides $400 million for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP).

Vaccine Compensation: Provides $50 million to compensate individuals for injuries caused by the H5N1 vaccine, which is a flu vaccine. Payment to Widow of Rep. Norwood: Provides $165,200 to Gloria W. Norwood, the widow of former Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA), an RSC Member, who passed away last month. In the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2005 (H.R. 1268), Congress provided $162,100 to Doris Matsui, the widow of former Rep. Robert Matsui.

Capitol Power Plant: Provides $50 million to the Capitol Power Plant for asbestos abatement and safety improvements. Liberia: Provides that money appropriated for FY 2007 for the Bilateral Economic Assistance program at the Department of Treasury may be used to assist Liberia in retiring its debt arrearages to the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, and the African Development Bank.

SCHIP: Provides $750 million to the Secretary of HHS to provide assistance to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) "shortfall states,", in the form of an amount "as the Secretary determines will eliminate the estimated shortfall." This provision is direct spending that is essentially capped at $750 million and designated as an emergency to avoid PAYGO constraints.

Minimum Wage Increase: Increases the federal minimum wage from $5.15-per-hour to $7.25-per-hour over two-plus years-a 41% increase. Yields $16.5 billion in private-sector costs over five years.

Tax Increases and Shifts: Implements several tax increases and shifts, including: denying the lowest maximum capital gains tax rate for certain minors and adults, extending the suspension of interest payments due to the IRS, and adjusting the deadlines for corporate estimated tax payments. Costs taxpayers $1.380 billion over the FY2007-FY2017 period.


http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/03/want_free_money_congress_is_ha.php


106 posted on 03/23/2007 10:30:38 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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To: veronica

Sorry, no, both Houses were lost because we lost independents by a margin of 3:2. The GOP did get its base to the polls.


107 posted on 03/23/2007 10:30:46 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: mwl1
The RATS have until April 15; after that, the blood of American soldiers in Iraq is on their hands and they are terrified of the political consequences that will result to them.

It remains to be seen what a cutoff of funding from a practical standpoint would do as far as the troops on the ground are concerned. They will certainly have the means to defend themselves. The question is about offensive operations and deployments.

Bush is holding all the cards on this. Today was pure theatre.

We shall see how it plays out in the MSM. If the Dems get positive feedback from the polls, they may hold to their position, i.e., you get the money with a withdrawal date next year.

108 posted on 03/23/2007 10:31:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: txrangerette

Did any of that pork go to their districts


109 posted on 03/23/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by not-alone
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To: veronica
It's the "my way or the highway stay-at-home" ideologues who brought to this place.

So why bring Rudy into the thread, except that you can't miss a chance to spank us for not supporting Rudy which has nothing at all to do with the subject of the thread.

110 posted on 03/23/2007 10:31:35 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: pabianice
This is why Iran took the UK Sailor hostage today. Our enemies do not fear us because of the left.

The left has spent the past five years twisting history to fit their agenda never caring that we did not go to war with Saddam because of WMD's, we went because after 9/11 we decided we could no longer allow our enemies to not fear us. Saddam stood in defiance to the will of the Free World and his defiance in the face of our military might was a rallying point for the radical Muslims.

Now we have AQ who believes so long as they hold on and kill as many people as possible the Free World will retreat and we have a nut in Iran who believes that if we don't have the will to stand up to a bunch terrorists, we certainly do not have the will to stand up against him and his military.

111 posted on 03/23/2007 10:32:45 AM PDT by txroadkill (Free Ramos and Compean. Duncan Hunter'08)
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To: mwl1

exactly! All of this talk about our base staying home is baloney.


112 posted on 03/23/2007 10:34:19 AM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: colorado tanker

Based on performance, she doesn't seem to be a much stronger leader than Republicans had in Hastert. Also, everyone talks about how inarticulate President Bush is, but when compared to Nancy reading her pre-vote speech, he would be considered a great communicator. Even though I disagree with her position on almost everything, I felt sorry for her as she tried to get through her little speech. Even the sophomoric cheering and applauding by her always present pep squad could not mask her stumbling. I wonder how long this "First Woman Speaker" thing is going to keep her propped up.


113 posted on 03/23/2007 10:35:35 AM PDT by etcb
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To: top 2 toe red; FreedomNeocon

Jones made a mistake here, unquestionably. But we've all made mistakes. It's possible that his district in Western North Carolina has suffered a lot of casualties in Iraq, and Jones may have overreacted emotionally to those casualties. I don't know why he voted no; perhaps he'll give us an explanation.


114 posted on 03/23/2007 10:35:46 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string left fielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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To: Elyse

Elections have consequences. When we don't win elections, the results are disastrous. This vote proves that. I think it's very relevant to mention that many here are attacking OUR candidates, rather than THEIR (the Dems) candidates. No good can come of that.


115 posted on 03/23/2007 10:36:56 AM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: pabianice

How many billions did the four votes they needed to pass this cost us each?

This is ten times as bad as anything The HAMMER Tom Delay was ever accused of doing.

Will the drive by media report it? Harldy.


116 posted on 03/23/2007 10:37:04 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: ChiTownBearFan
I agree and disagree.

A lot of the base either stayed home or they continue to lie while bragging about "teaching the RINOs a lesson."

The moderates can be played like a flute and the MSM was the Pied Piper and did.

Rudy, yes.

117 posted on 03/23/2007 10:37:11 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (~*~ All we have to do is save the Cheerleader?!?!? ~*~)
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To: pabianice
Does this mean we will join club France for surrendering.
118 posted on 03/23/2007 10:37:12 AM PDT by MATSEVAH
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To: top 2 toe red; FreedomNeocon

Correction: I don't know why he voted Yes...


119 posted on 03/23/2007 10:37:23 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string left fielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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To: hellinahandcart

He's an @$$hole. I've had enough of him.


120 posted on 03/23/2007 10:38:07 AM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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