Posted on 03/23/2007 7:27:42 AM PDT by VictoryGal
WASHINGTON — Public allegiance to the Republican Party has plunged during George W. Bush's presidency, as attitudes have edged away from some of the conservative values that fueled GOP political victories, a major survey has found.
The survey, by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, found a "dramatic shift" in political party identification since 2002, when Republicans and Democrats were at rough parity. Now, 50% of those surveyed identified with or leaned toward Democrats, whereas 35% aligned with Republicans.
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The poll wasn't on voting. It was on aligning to a party affiliation. I don't consider myself a Republican. I consider myself Conservative that votes Republican, because Socailists Suck! But I'll never give the GOP a dime!
But that is not borne out by this poll! I won't say this poll is accurate or not, but you cannot argue that the reason for these results is that conservative principles aren't being followed because the reason for the poll results is exactly the opposite of that. Secular principles, more government, etc. are what this particular poll suggests the people want.
Which of course begs the question of who is the real Republican in name only (RINO), the conservative who comes together to support his Party against the likes of Hillary, or the socon who says that he doesn't really care about this Nation or the Republican Party, only a socially acceptable candidate?
It's pretty clear to me who the real RINOs are.
My experience in talking to friends is that the Poll is speaking the truth abotu the shift in voters/citizens perceptiosn and feelings.
Where I agree with your assertion that the GOPs need to return to core values but -
Unfortunately the poll also so a shift towards people wanting more social programs and more big Govt (i.e. govt that helps people).
One of the affects that republicans are not taking account is -
as more people loose their health insurance and as more of the middle class and low-midlle class fall further behind in their earning power and their ability to pay their bills, the more people are going to resent the GOP with its perception that they only care about rich people and giving rich people big tax cuts.
You have a point. The way the GOP is going, "RINO" may soon (if not already) be better applied to us conservatives than to the liberal country-club crew that is so badly screwing up a once-viable party.
I'm not worried about losing any conservatives. They generally understand the differences between our Party and the Democrats, as well as the issues of importance to most Americans. The social right on the other hand is the group I'm referring to. They may well be conservative, though much of their agenda belies that.
"It's pretty clear to me who the real RINOs are."
You can add me to this list of "RINOs"
I'll happily wear that badge.
Conservative first, Republican last.
and the further the Republican party moves from it's base, the further it moves from me.
I'm not moving.
The Democrats aren't the only ones who forget that 9-11 happened.
Glad to see you posters finally outing yourselves.
Conservative first, Republican last.
Agree completely, and at least when all the social radicals have left, we will have all conservatives remaining to come together and support our Party against the real enemy of freedom, the Democrats and Hillary.
Maybe y'all can go start a whole new party where stem cell research, prayer in school, gay bashing, Ten Commandments, Terri Schiavo memorials, creationism, and all the other social issues will make up its platform.
I say to those RINOs, "Don't let the screen door hit you in the a$$"
"Agree completely, and at least when all the social radicals have left, we will have all conservatives remaining to come together and support our Party against the real enemy of freedom, the Democrats and Hillary.
Maybe y'all can go start a whole new party where stem cell research, prayer in school, gay bashing, Ten Commandments, Terri Schiavo memorials, creationism, and all the other social issues will make up its platform.
I say to those RINOs, "Don't let the screen door hit you in the a$$"
If the Pew Survey is wrong, why aren't the Republicans still in control of Congress? And why are Giuliani and McCain the leading Republican contenders for 2008?
I say pay attention to the current trend and work hard to reverse it.
The GOP lost Congress for a host of reasons including the war in Iraq, corruption and sleaze, failure to follow through on any meaningful legislation including comprehensive immigration reform, tax reform, social security reform, or energy independence. They did however find time to debate stem cell research, constitutional amendments, prayer in school, Ten Commandments and several other social issues. All of that contributed to their deserved defeat.
As for why Giuliani and McCain are in the lead, it's simple. First, of course, most Americans recognize them. Second and more important, conservatives within the Party see them as far less concerned with the agenda of the social right, and more concerned with the issues of importance to America.
"The GOP lost Congress for a host of reasons including the war in Iraq, corruption and sleaze, failure to follow through on any meaningful legislation including comprehensive immigration reform, tax reform, social security reform, or energy independence. They did however find time to debate stem cell research, constitutional amendments, prayer in school, Ten Commandments and several other social issues. All of that contributed to their deserved defeat.
As for why Giuliani and McCain are in the lead, it's simple. First, of course, most Americans recognize them. Second and more important, conservatives within the Party see them as far less concerned with the agenda of the social right, and more concerned with the issues of importance to America."
All I have to say about the above is: "yep!"
You want a liberal president so why don't you just jump to the Democrat party?
I left that party in '94 because I could see that it was becoming way to communist/socialist/liberal for me and you want Republicans to move in that direction.
I figured that's what would happen when I ceased to be a Democrat so I never bothered to join the Republican party. I think I hit the nail on the head.
So why then, do you have any interest or business in who we Republicans nominate?
Because, unfortunately for me, it still affects my life.
And it's the most important election of our lifetime, right?
Then if it does, and I don't doubt it, you might consider registering and voting. That you don't seems to indicate it's not all that important to your life.
Thanks,that was very well said!
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