Posted on 03/23/2007 7:27:42 AM PDT by VictoryGal
Thompson is starting to sound good, but I do not know enough about him. I would probably vote for him but he needs more recognition - and I presume you don't mean the Democrat by the same last name.
Bump!
It's like all our worry about the country going under. If you or your leaders do all the stupidest things for long enough, there will be consequences. If countries can collapse, a political party damn well can.
When the GOP allows scumbags like Giuliani to run as an R, what choice do we have?
You are correct - the first paragraph is hogwash wishful thinking on the part of the MSM.
In reality, it is those conservative value-holders that are sliding away from the left-moving Republican party.
Isn't it funny (in a sad way), how we were laughing at the apparent falling apart of the Democrat Party just a few years back - they couldn't seem to win their way out of a wet cardboard box and the bickering and cannibalism among their own was a sight to behold. Yet they stayed "true" to their causes - and continued to run the Senate, despite being in the minority. And they fueld the MSM's hatred of GW and the WOT. And they continued to spout their leftist propaganda.
At the same time, the Republican majority sat on their duffs and did nothing. The party continued to slide Left. They failed to stand up for what their supposed platform said. They would not stand up against the lies being spouted. They would not stand up for judicial nominees. They compromised at every turn (what is the point of having a majority?).
And now, the supposed front-runners for the GOP nod in '08 are pretty much all RINOs - or psychopaths (McLame). What are we to expect? The Republican party has two choices to even think about victory:
1. - The apparent thought on the mind of GOP leadership is to get a "centrist" (read that RINO) candidate that just maybe enough moderate lefties might support with Hitlery or Obama representing the FAR Left side of the Dem Party. In this scenario, the GOP thinks they can steal the election from the Democrats by taking some of their own.
2. The GOP can grow a backbone in the congress (yeah, right) and do SOMETHING. At the same time, the GOP could get behind a real candidate with real conservative values (Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson type?) and run a REAL campaign (not a PC looser campaign like we are trying to fight wars now...).
OF course - Scenario #1 would spell the end of the Republican party. Even IF they could somehow find a way to win with that option (which I do not believe will happen. The GOP cannot win the POTUS without the conservative base), our country will be still on the express train to Hell because we will have a re-branded liberal with an "R"...
With the second option - The Republican Party would keep the conservative base, and even if they were to loose (which I think is less likely than plan 1), would at least demonstrate some sort of leadership ability and backbone - which I believe voters want.
It takes a lot more than sending 25K troops to Iraq to show backbone.
I'd agree with you if you were talking about a republican who actually represented republican stances, but I asume you mean Giuliani, who is certainly no conservative, and definitely doesn't deserve his republican badge.
Sam, I agree with everything you said except the not voting part. I will vote for anyone running against the Hildebeast (and against Hussein O'Bama too.)
People are going nuts over this story, as its creators hoped they would.
I seriously question the methodology of the poll. I don't think that in just two years that much of the the population of the USA could change their core political opinions diametrically.
I call bs.
Good one! I will forward that to Keith Olbermann since he's obsessed with announcing the number of days that have passed since the "Mission Accomplished" banner was displayed!
I hope the survey is inaccurate. Pew research is a liberal organization.
The latter. The sample was approx 2000 adults without regard to whether they vote or not.
For more info on the methodology check out this link:
http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/312.pdf
The details start around page 64.
I have alwasys voted Republican and get requests for money. Over the last year I have taken a sheet of paper and written NO AMESTY FOR ILLEHALS and shoved it back into the envelope ( no money ). Let them pay for my opinion. In fact, I have started doing the same thing with mail advertisements from Bank of America. I write I DON'T SUPPOT ANY COMPANY THAT HELPS ILLEGALS REMAIN IN MY COMMUNITY.
bump for later entertainment.........
I agree that the people haven't abandoned conservative values. But with the help of the MSM and the Democrats, the social right has now been equated to conservatism, which of course, is disastrous to the Party. Republicans need to explain what conservatism is in a big way, and that many in the social right may be conservative, but conservatism does not equate in any way to the social right agenda. Until then, the GOP will be marginalized.
http://galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=26308
The findings in brief:
A review of Gallup polling data from 2006 underscores the relative strength the Democratic Party currently enjoys versus the Republican Party in American politics. For the year, Democrats averaged a nearly four point advantage over the Republicans on national party identification and an even larger 10-point advantage when independents' partisan "leanings" are taken into account. In an analysis of 2006 partisanship at the state level, 33 states show a statistically significant advantage in favor of the Democratic Party, six states show a statistically significant Republican advantage, and the remainder can be considered competitive. Democratic strength in the United States has grown in each of the last three years. The trends are fueled more by movement away from the Republican Party and into independent status than by movement toward the Democratic Party.
A famous philosopher of olden days wrote a book: The Coming Caesar. In it he shows that in virtually all democracies, the people eventually destroy themselves. They soon learn that they can control what they get by pressing their leaders more and more until a demagogue arrives who takes over (? Hugo Chavez) by promising them everything. He then becomes a dictator. It was a chilling book.
Which is why it looks like I'll be leaving the party after the primaries.
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