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The concept of English rule of law.

Go to link and read parts I had to cut to fit into excerpt format.

1 posted on 03/22/2007 11:28:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

If hillary clinton had said that, people here would be ripping her left and right.

But since it's a guy with an (R) by his name, it will be praised as an act of courage by somoene who is 'tough on crime'.

Don't you just love it?


2 posted on 03/22/2007 11:32:13 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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Schools exist in America and have always existed to train responsible citizens of the United States of America.

If they don't do that, it's very hard to hold us together as a country, because it's shared values that hold us together.

Hmmmm... I read something like this today... 5 'well-educated' kids put in state custody

14 posted on 03/22/2007 11:46:29 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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As one Rudybot posted last week, America is a cesspool and Rudie is a cesspool expert.


16 posted on 03/22/2007 11:49:52 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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Rather hypocritical of Rudy, considering he turned New York City into a safe haven for illegal immigrants...


18 posted on 03/22/2007 11:55:35 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." -Mayor Giuliani, New York Newsday pg A3 4/20/98

"State authority must provide for peace and order, and peace and order in turn must conversely make possible the existence of state authority. Within these two poles all life must now revolve...Ideas of 'freedom,' mostly of a misunderstood nature, inject themselves into the state conceptions of these circles". -Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

22 posted on 03/22/2007 11:59:16 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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Families are significantly less important in the development of children today than they were 30 or 40 years ago.

Maybe that's because Rudy's homosexual activists friends have constantly been trying to undermine the importance of the nuclear family.

24 posted on 03/22/2007 12:00:25 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

Gawd, talk about having it bass-ackwards. Freedom is having lawful authority butting out of your business if you are not breaking the law, and only passing laws that truly deal with public safety and not nanny-state social engineering.

29 posted on 03/22/2007 12:01:50 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.


39 posted on 03/22/2007 12:09:03 PM PDT by mysterio
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

... The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government. " Rudy Giuliani

Let's see, Rudy says all people must surrender to a lawful authority. Then he says, even if all human beings do as told and surrender to authority (govt), that they have no reason to expect that authority to whom they surrendered themselves to help them.

This guy is a sociopath.

65 posted on 03/22/2007 12:32:27 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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Thomas Jefferson:
"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."

"I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master."



"Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves." ~Author Unknown


68 posted on 03/22/2007 12:33:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Bwahaha!!

Giuliani lecturing other people on how the concept of family has disintegrated.

This is the guy who fought a court battle for the right to force his children to be present for sleepovers with his slut and who marches in parades with perverts performing sex acts in front of children.


91 posted on 03/22/2007 12:58:22 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!! Fear the Fred!!)
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Well said, Rudy!


122 posted on 03/22/2007 1:47:47 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

As an American I find that comment offensive

"RUDY DEMANDS YOU WORSHIP THE STATE"

125 posted on 03/22/2007 1:49:45 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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Rudy just might lose and lose bad. There are a lot of "South Park" types out there who may just turn out to vote against him.


140 posted on 03/22/2007 2:07:01 PM PDT by x
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We're going to find the answer when schools once again train citizens.

Douche chills alert.

177 posted on 03/22/2007 3:18:07 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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Sieg Heil!


209 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:08 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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Rudy may no longer be a devout Catholic, but his worldview is very similar to the communitarian "order" preached by the Church historically, and followed by blue collar types in the NYC area. I'll trust Anglo Saxon Classical Liberalism (the ideology of the founding fathers) over the Eurostatism of Giuliani anyday of the week.


211 posted on 03/22/2007 4:42:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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Sounds like a closet fascist to me.


272 posted on 03/22/2007 9:20:57 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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Sounds like dictatorial propaganda. Hugo Chavez couldn't have said it better himself.


459 posted on 03/23/2007 12:04:59 AM PDT by TheThinker
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
- Rudy Giuliani





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480 posted on 03/23/2007 7:50:31 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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