Sixteen page article! The NYT will do ANYTHING to undermine the United States and it's military, as this story clearly shows. Very one-sided, at best...
To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is something deathly wrong with an American media that gives the deserters twenty times more coverage than the heroes.
3 posted on
03/20/2007 7:03:42 AM PDT by
BenLurkin
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Somebody call the WHAAAMBULANCE. Jeez.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
God, the Times is disgusting.
Get women out of combat areas now.
5 posted on
03/20/2007 7:05:12 AM PDT by
L98Fiero
(A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
An excellent example of why women should NEVER have been allowed into war zones.
7 posted on
03/20/2007 7:13:19 AM PDT by
cake_crumb
(When Congress prosecutes wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember during the 1960's when the communists used to stand in the middle of Harvard Square ranting and giving out free copies of their communist workers news-rags.
Now they work for the New York Times.
I never read their rags nor the New York Times and not even their sister rag, the Boston Globe.
8 posted on
03/20/2007 7:13:30 AM PDT by
LoneRangerMassachusetts
(The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Admit upfront that I did not read whole article. Just quickly scanned first two pages. I get the impression that they are making the case that women do NOT belong in the military. The idea of sending women to war is nuts. Throughout history has there ever been a military commander or strategist who said that what we need as women soldiers? No. It was the goofy anti-military feminists who came up with this loony notion. They hate the U.S. military and would do anything to weaken, if not destroy, it. They managed to get two birds. They advanced their war against men and the U.S.
Of course, NYT, women are going to have problems in combat milieu. But remember you guys were all for it.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I didn't read the whole article, but I got far enough to find out that the woman declined to file any complaint against the officers, who she claims demanded sex. She says that she told other officers about the harrassment after she went AWOL, but they never acted on it. Maybe, because she never filed a complaint. She did, at one time complain about verbal harrassment and the man involved was given a written reprimand. So, her story just doesn't seem to hold up.
10 posted on
03/20/2007 7:21:09 AM PDT by
Eva
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Following in the seditious and dishonest footsteps of Walter "Lied about Tet" Cronkite ...
11 posted on
03/20/2007 7:23:34 AM PDT by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
After spending 20 years in the Army I would never say there is no such thing as sexual harassment in the military be cause I know that to be a lie. However, I wonder how many women will use the sex harrass card whenever they get into trouble or do not want to deploy.
12 posted on
03/20/2007 7:26:16 AM PDT by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
After spending 20 years in the Army I would never say there is no such thing as sexual harassment in the military be cause I know that to be a lie. However, I wonder how many women will use the sex harrass card whenever they get into trouble or do not want to deploy.
13 posted on
03/20/2007 7:26:30 AM PDT by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
After spending 20 years in the Army I would never say there is no such thing as sexual harassment in the military be cause I know that to be a lie. However, I wonder how many women will use the sex harrass card whenever they get into trouble or do not want to deploy.
14 posted on
03/20/2007 7:26:36 AM PDT by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
After spending 20 years in the Army I would never say there is no such thing as sexual harassment in the military be cause I know that to be a lie. However, I wonder how many women will use the sex harrass card whenever they get into trouble or do not want to deploy.
15 posted on
03/20/2007 7:26:37 AM PDT by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
After spending 20 years in the Army I would never say there is no such thing as sexual harassment in the military be cause I know that to be a lie. However, I wonder how many women will use the sex harrass card whenever they get into trouble or do not want to deploy.
16 posted on
03/20/2007 7:26:57 AM PDT by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The original intent for having women in military service, was to "Free a man to fight". However, since the 80's, social engineers in the government have increasingly put women in "The trenches", "REPLACING a man in the fight". I've known some outstanding women marines during my active duty days, but I didn't want them charging a hill next to me, or relying on one to bayonet an enemy behind me. Even in our technologically advanced military of today, personal physical strength is still the weapon of opportunity in a hand to hand situation, and sometimes the only difference between victory and death. I prefer my petite sister keep me supplied and supported, and let my hulking brother keep the enemy from my back. I'm sure you feminist out there are gonna breath fire over these statements, but I prefer victory and life, over your self-esteem. Women in combat, NO THANKS! Let 'em serve in the rear with the gear, but keep 'em off the line, away from the cold steel and bleeding knuckles.
"Semper Fi"
18 posted on
03/20/2007 7:31:50 AM PDT by
Msgt USMC
(Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
She's toast...Without a paper trail the rest of the story is just noise.
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19 posted on
03/20/2007 7:32:21 AM PDT by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is one version of her story:
She told Army investigators that the reason she did not report for deployment was that she had been sexually harassed repeatedly by three of her supervisors throughout her military service: beginning in Kuwait; through much of her time in Iraq; and following her return to Fort Lewis.
Here is another:
''All my stuff was in the car,'' she recalls. ''My keys were in my hand, and then I looked at my mom and said: 'I can't do this. I can't go back there.' It wasn't some rational decision. It was a huge, crazy, heart-pounding thing.''
She was afraid (reasonable, IMO) to go back to a war zone and ran away. Luckily, being female, she had a ready made bomb to throw to excuse herself. I never believe anyone who comes up with their "good excuse" after they are already in trouble.
21 posted on
03/20/2007 7:35:59 AM PDT by
Dianna
To: 2ndDivisionVet
AWOL in war time? Put her up against a wall and shoot her.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I suffered the entire 16 pages of it.
And so goes the grand social experiment that our military has become. Criminality (alleged or real) and victimhood (alleged or real) always sells.
And BTW.....BOHICA.....here comes the troop slandering package from Vietnam; The combination of criminality, victimhood, and now PTSD......The sum of which is the idea of crazed Veterans loose in society - slanderous hollywood movies will soon start being released in Iraq regalia - remember that MASH (the teevee series, not the original movie) was really a hit-piece on Vietnam.
The most poignant sentence in the entire article:
''It's like a record that keeps getting stuck,''
To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a soldier, I'm disgusted by these women.
There are many tools at the disposal of these women to stop harrassment and rape. Every unit is required to brief their soldiers on how to report it and stop it- they should have done that.
These women will be shocked at how fast they're dropped by the liberals when they are no longer useful.
26 posted on
03/20/2007 9:05:24 AM PDT by
DilJective
(Proudly serving in the US Army)
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