[FairOpinion]

PING

[EternalVigilance]

The level of rational thought and logic is undergoing a serious decline at the hands of the Rudyphiles.

This piece is a bad joke.

[ARE SOLE]

Just the Ticket for Social Conservatives

Just like that self serving clown Arnold.

[EternalVigilance]

He is a fighter,

So, what's he going to fight for? The kind of liberal policies he's always advocated?

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."

Or are you claiming that he will fight to protect us from the predations of liberal politicians like him?

Stupidity on parade.

[chasio649]

Come on...change the link back to The Onion....

[hosepipe]

Giuliani and Hitlery Clinton are very close on MOST ISSUES..
also; Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Barney Frank..

[paudio]

George W. Bush has socially conservative opinions but he avoids confrontation with the cultural left the way cats avoid water. Even when he does the right thing he feels compelled to do it in an apologetic, almost cringing way that empowers his enemies and dispirits his supporters.

I love W, but this is true.

[marron]

The fact that Giuliani could win social conservatives by defending the right to disapprove of homosexuality and attacking Roe v. Wade doesn't mean that he will. If he does, however, his campaign might well prove unstoppable. It will be interesting to see how he chooses to proceed.

The money quote. He is right that Giuliani is a fighter, and he's right that a fighter is of greater value than someone with the right opinions who won't fight.

On the war, I trust Giuliani to be a fighter. On social issues, I haven't seen anything to make me think Giuliani will fight for the moral underpinnings of civilization if it means going up against Roe v Wade, for example. The writer's analysis is sharp and clear but probably wishful thinking.

I am not one of the ones who will write Giuliani off without hearing him out, as I have said the war is my bottom line and on the war I trust Giuliani to fight.

But on every other issue I consider him to be a Lieberman Republican, and if he's president we'll have 4 or 8 years of rear-guard fighting on every social issue we care about. I do not trust him to put constitutionalists on the Supreme Court, and thats almost as important as the war if we are to survive as a constitutional republic.

At this stage there are a couple of other people I believe will also fight, and who agree with me on most social issues as far as I can tell; I am supporting Hunter, and when Gingrich runs his mouth, I like what I hear. I haven't forgotten how he screwed up during impeachment, but I also haven't forgotten the shellacking he gave Clinton when he enacted his "Contract for America" over Clinton's furious resistance. Clinton was reduced to taking credit for Gingrich's project.

[TheThinker]

Here's where social conservatives can get tripped up. If Rudy is truly committed to appointing strict consructionist it doesn't matter if he's not a social conservative because in the long run those unelected judges can yield enormous dividends.

[sasportas]

This piece is at it again, separating us out as "fiscal" and "social" conservatives. Hogwash. Here's Buckley's American conservativism:

Through his intellectual leadership, Buckley consolidated the disparate themes that became modern American conservatism: anti-communism, free-market economics, limited government and a cultural perspective rooted in religion and religious values.

These abortionist, same sex marriage Rinos rallying around their standard bearer, Guiliani, are NOT conservatives. They are utterly lacking of "a cultural perspective rooted in religion and religious values."

[SWAMPSNIPER]

All that, and never touched on RKBA!

[NapkinUser]

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[airborne]

Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more.

Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.(but it's early)

[tkathy]

Many of the turn the other cheek conservatives are incapable of fighting the democrats.

[ken5050]

From the article....

"Social Conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more....."

To that I add a big AMEN!!!

FYI: To those who may not recognize the author, J. Peter Mulhern came to fame as "Peter the Lawyer" during the Clinton impeachment, when he called into the Rush program. He had many a fascinating, and informative conversation with ElRushbo after that..

[kittymyrib]

Did NY vote for the GOP presidential candidate in the past four elections? No one should be nominated from a state that voted Democrat.

[from occupied ga]

Rudy Giuliani Could be Just the Ticket for Social Conservatives

Just the ticket to hell. Gun control, abortion, illegal immigration, etc. He sure stands for the things that conservatives do < /sarcasm>

[dforest]

This article is a monumental, gargantuan stretch.

It will never happen.

Time to quit haggling to sell someone inappropriate and start looking for a uniter.

Thompson looks pretty good and would be a great candidate..

[kidd]

This logic only works if one believes that the entire country is represented by NYC.

It is not. Not even close. NYC doesn't even represent a typical city in America.

[A. Pole]

Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more.

Bump!