Rudy on Publicly-Financed Abortions (Must See)

YouTube ^ | November 3, 1989 | Rudy Giuliani

[msnimje]

Do you honestly believe with a war on terror going on that Rudy is going to be concerned about abortion? As far as I know, he isn't in bed with NARAL, Emily's list or MOVEON.org. They support Hillary.

Why do you support somebody you know so very little about?

Firstly, the President does not stop being the domestic President because a war in ongoing.

Secondly, Abortion groups love and support Rudy. He is the darling of Republicans for Choice, a pro-abortion group and the only Republican to receive financial contributions for NARAL.

[dynachrome]

Thanks to you for finding this. Why do people support a candidate that is diametrically opposed to 90% of what they supposedly stand for?

[Pinkbell]

I'm young so this is really only the second election I've been involved in, but I am shocked at the quantity of Republicans currently supporting such a liberal candidate, although I question how many actually know his policies are very close to those of Democrats.

[Spiff]

I'm young so this is really only the second election I've been involved in, but I am shocked at the quantity of Republicans currently supporting such a liberal candidate, although I question how many actually know his policies are very close to those of Democrats.

I've been involved with Republican politics for a number of years now and I'm not young anymore and I am profoundly shocked at the quantity of Republicans currently supporting a radical liberal like Giuliani. Those expressing their support for him in the Republican Party can only come from two groups - the grossly uninformed/stupid or the liberal fifth column.

[Old_Mil]

If he appoints strict-constructionist judges, it really doesn't matter what his personal opinions are

You need to understand that liberals like Rudy and Hillary look at the constitution and see a "right" to abortion included in it. So Rudy's strict constitutionalists will defend Roe v. Wade. Furthermore, the guy supports public funding for them. This means that the various executive orders that he issues will be all pro abortion. Big dollars will go to Planned Parenthood from the federal government.

[stockstrader]

The Rudy-apologists won't like watching this one.

JulieAnnie should follow this one up--with his plan for coordinating this 'public funding' of abortions--with his call for fiscal conservatism....lol

I'd like to hear the JulieAnnie apologists, too, dream up their explanation for that one.

[Fabozz]

"Is that Susan Molinari to Rudy's left?"

Get with the program. The FReeper party line is that nobody is to Rudy's left.

[stockstrader]

Why in the world would ANYONE believe that he would appoint judges that OPPOSE his basic beliefs?

Even Rudy himself has gone on record as saying (paraphrasing), "Presidents appoint judges that they think will agree with their policies."

So why in the world would anyone think that someway, somehow, for some UNKNOWN REASON--Rudy would do the opposite? The Rudy-Apologists are really 'groping' with that one. Geeeez

[stockstrader]

The Republican Party has been moving to the left for years now. Someday, we will FINALLY achieve liberal heaven--both parties to the left-of-center--with the only difference, being a matter of 'degree'.

Now, if we can just get Rudy elected--it will the HUGE GIANT STEP needed in the direction of the "Liberal DreamWorld" of TWO political parties--BOTH to the 'left-of-center'!!!

Rudy would ACCELERATE the process to THAT progressive nirvana, far-left HEAVEN and LIBERAL UTOPIA.

Now that's what I call progress! Rudy would accelerate that movement to the left by at least a generation. If you want to accelerate that process to the Liberal Dreamworld--

RUDY IS JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!

[eleni121]

We cannot afford another infanticide supporter in the WH.

Rudy: You're fired!

[nmh]

"Is this the new Conservative buzzword? Because I didn't receive the e-mail about it yet but have heard it on these boards about a dozen times already."

No, it's basic logic. False choice, false dilemma.
False choice = can't focus on the war on terror so abortion should be ignored. False dilemma = required choice when BOTH issues are easily addressed. There is NO reason why abortion should be funded by tax dollars for the poor, which is NOT being done now. The war on terror is being addressed now even with the abortion issue.

"As far as life being sacred, I agree with you. It is. It is so sacred that our President, with both a Republican house and Republican senate couldn't do a dang thing about it."

It's because they have NO BACKBONE! Reagan was the last President who stood firm on abortion being wrong and NOT endorsing it. Rudy wants to expand it.

I am totally disgusted with RHINO's and those that claim to be conservative. Republicans are constantly screwing up when they get power. They LET the left get the upper hand.

"And if the next President is to the right of Reagan, he also won't be able to do more than state his position on it while nothing gets done. And if a Democrat gets is elected then Roe will be with us another 20 years."

It beats Rudy's stance who wants to EXPAND abortions to the poor and fund them! The opposite extreme is worse. If Rudy gets in, you might as well have voted for Hillary since the stances on issues are hardly different. We need a Republican with backbone. Bush has proven to lack that.

"If you want Roe overturned then you need a Republican in office who will nominate Constructionist justices to SCOTUS. Meanwhile, I will take the wins we get in the states because that is where this belongs."

I want a Republican in there that is NOT afraid of a strict interpretation of the Constitution. I want Republican that exposes what an abortion LOOKS LIKE. There is NO WAY to defend a mutilated baby. That is why the left gets all jumpy and vilifies the person. They KNOW that seeing what it is, will repulse people.

No, abortion is wrong for everyone. The right to life for the unborn who is INNOCENT beyond and reasonable doubt is NOT a state issue. THIS belongs at the federal level.

I's also like to see capital punishment swiftly carried out in EVERY state. Any criminal guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt for a capital offense, doesn't deserve to live, have great medical care, gym work outs, great food, education paid for and board paid by taxpayers. If they want to repent,like the thief on the cross, they can do that too and end up in the right place. If they don't, that's a choice too. Today our justice system is a joke.

Our justice system is the opposite of what it should be - innocent arbitrarily put to death - the innocent unborn and the guilt adults what are guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt treated like royalty at constituents expense. It's ridiculous. Often the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

[streetpreacher]

Of course you never answer the numerous replies you receive. You just make your snarky snide little comments and scurry back off into the darkness. I look forward to the day when you are no longer allowed to troll here.

[Elyse]

Better they kill the fetus themselves or stick the newborn in the dumpster?

If they want to murder their child, then they should take the risk that they will die themselves. I'll never understand how someone can argue that I should pay to murder someone's baby so the mother doesn't have to risk her life to murder that baby.

If they put the newborn in a dumpster, the baby at least has a chance to be found and survive, but there are new laws all over the country that allow you to leave your baby at any hospital, police or fire department, no questions asked and no charges filed, so they already have an option in that case.

[Carry_Okie]

If he appoints strict-constructionist judges, it really doesn't matter what his personal opinions are (or were).

If he can't keep a marriage vow then what makes you think he'll keep that ambiguous promise?

[at bay]

Julie-Yawnee, "Got thuction, fortheps?"

[stockstrader]

Anyone else besides me notice the 'lack of' JulieAnnie APOLOGISTS on this thread? I see a couple--but not the usual Apologist-groupies!!

[Sun]

I just heard Matt Drudge say that he was going to play clips about Giuliani being pro-abortion.

[Doofer]

That little video clip is going to make one powerful campaign ad for someone.

[stockstrader]

Well, it WILL get more liberal votes--while driving some more conservatives away.

The really SAD PART is this, though. The Rudy-Apologists have NO PROBLEM with that at all.

I hope they enjoy their "New Party".

[Sun]

Do politicians usually keep their campaign promises?

I don't trust him to pick pro-life, conservative judges, because presidents always at least TRY to pick a nominee that matches their ideology.

Even Rudy admitted this when he said:

"Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163223,00.html