Posted on 03/11/2007 12:27:20 PM PDT by Huber
This report was posted in mid-February, and has received no media coverage whatsoever. Jacobsen confirmed that the incident did occur, with an American Airlines spokesperson.
This is not meant to scare, but it probably will. Consider yourself informed and warned that the threat is real. This crew reported that they were not prepared that something of this nature could be happening to them.
Flt 62, Paris to MIA [Miami], a few weeks ago. 2 maybe 4 mid-eastern types causing minor disturbance from the get-go. Nothing that the FAs [flight attendants] couldn’t deal with, but, in hindsight, they seemed to be pushing the envelope. Cross-cabin activity, hanging out in the forward galley, complaining about everything, etc. Mid-Atlantic, the FO [First Officer, or Co-Pilot] called to return to the cockpit after his crew-rest break. One of the perps [perpetrators] was in the forward galley, was instructed by a FA to go aft, but didn’t. As the cockpit door opened, another perp suddenly appeared from around the galley, dropped his shoulder into FO while the first one got in the way of the FO’s attempt to block the other...here I’m not certain...so....wait for the movie.
FO (one of our first FFDO’s [Federal Flight Deck Officers*]) was about to pull his flashlight to use as a weapon in a counter attack, but thought better of it not knowing how many more perps he might have to fight, called “lockdown” to the FB [secondary “B” First Officer], inside the cockpit, who slammed the door. As soon as the perps heard the word lockdown, they retreated to their seats.
I’m not doing justice to the story, but, if not an attempt on the cockpit, this was a serious probe.
Crew considered divert, but since the threat diminished and seemed to be contained, they pressed on towards MIA. Flight was met in MIA by FBI, FAMS [Federal Air Marshal Service] (none aboard, by the way), AA [American Airlines] Security suits, etc. During the de-brief, which lasted several hours, the FAMs told the pilots that they would have “dropped” both of the perps with the first shove near the cockpit door. Perps claimed to not understand English, were detained for 4 days and deported, back to Paris, when they are free to attend Sunday school, tell their buddies of their Adventure and plan their next move.
Enjoying the story so far? It’s good we can’t carry guns on Int’l [International] trips, eh?
Upsetting is that we all have to learn of this, by happenstance. Why didn’t you and your last crew know of this? We took a delay yesterday while this FB detailed the entire event to my crew. Believe me, there were no disbelievers that the terrorist threat is real in my crew by the time we boarded.
I’m more than upset that this is still a secret! The FB is a man I’ve flown with often, trust completely and attended FFDO (Federal Flight Deck Officer) training with a year ago January. I hope I’ve presented his story accurately, but am certain that the basic details are very close.
Something sticks in my gray matter that we should have armed flight attendents with side arms drawn and standing guard while a pilot is out of the cockpit. The pilot can then put the side arm back into the cockpit to end the procedure. Maybe an overhead sign that reads, "Do you feel lucky?" could also be used?
Armed flight attendents trained in martial arts instead of wussies, along with security cameras would help a lot.
>>>>Good grief! Have we learned NOTHING ..????
>>No I don't believe we have. PC will be the death of us!
I've said for some time, that it will take another event, an order of magnitude bigger than 9/11, to completely wake up the country. I really think only about 1/3rd woke up then.
I'm very sad to tell you .. I completely agree with you.
I take a lot of Delta overseas flights up in business class and they always block both aisles with service carts and post FAs on both aisles before opening the cockpit door. I'm suprised AA doesn't use the same method.
Oh, yeah, I am not at all happy that I have come to that conclusion.
Pathetic.
Agreed!
Catch in a serious enough act - or pose a serious threat to others --- Kill them.
Semper Fi
Huber I live at an airpark in Florida and have spoken to commercial pilots that live here and they tell of very often old Islamic females changing seats and pushing the envelope in flight just checking how far they can go and what they can get away with.
Since they are not male 18 to 35 they are not suspect but they all say they know these old ladies are going back to their cells and informing of results.
To a pilot they say they are checking for weak spots to take advantage of in the future.
Did your acquaintance claim to be involved in this situation?
No. It's all third hand information. That's why I raised the question on FR. It's better than Snopes for fact-checking!
If you are sitting next to someone who irritates you on a plane:
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>> 1. Quietly and calmly open up your laptop case.
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>> 2. Remove your laptop.
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>> 3. Turn it on.
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>> 4. Make sure the guy who won't leave you alone can see the screen.
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>> 6. Close your eyes and tilt your head up to the sky.
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>> 7. Then hit this link:
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http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf
Sooner or later an another several airliners will go down at once.
I've been saying 19—for the 19 originals—as all it takes is one per plane now.
(I.e., Al Qaida found 19 jihadists on 9/11 to attack us).
Rush started talking about this months ago .. and at the time I didn't think he was right .. but as time goes on I can see where people have no concept about what we're up against.
We're so spoiled and used to a life of ease .. the concept of WAR in the streets of the USA is just out of the realm of most people's reality. I hope people wake up before THAT war becomes fact.
But .. for me .. I'm considering purchasing a weapon (which I would never have considered years ago).
Don't just consider it....Do it while you still can.
Tell him to kill one for me!
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