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Beware the 'Christianists'?
Human Events ^ | 02/28/2007 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/10/2007 8:36:34 AM PST by ChessExpert

A new book climbing the New York Times Bestseller List warns Americans of a minority of religious fanatics who are hijacking a great religion and working to destroy the United States Constitution and set up a theocracy in America. Nonbelievers will be discriminated against or even summarily killed.

Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Muhammad Atta? No, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Tim LaHaye. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ac; atheists; christianity; christophobes; lahaye; liberalfools; liberals; lunatics; persecution; robertson
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Yes, common sense should be used. Lets do that.

Question: does one who believes the inability to purchase alcohol on Sunday amounts to theocracy...actually possess common sense?

If not, what then is the value of their opinion?

61 posted on 03/10/2007 11:05:51 AM PST by papertyger
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To: PeteB570

Do you understand what a source is?

As it stands, you are commenting out of simple secular bigotry. We had blue laws in Pennsylvania, still have some of them in fact...hardly a bastion of good ol' southern Christians.


62 posted on 03/10/2007 11:08:56 AM PST by papertyger
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Does anyone have the list of the more than 20 Muslim acts of war against the United States handy? There is another list of 20 or so instances of sudden Jihad syndrome (freelance terrorism) in the US since September 11th. I don't have these lists handy. They do help to provide a little perspective. And let's not forget the tens of thousand of US deaths that probably would have occurred had we done nothing in the last five years. Having respect for the Sabbath and not being able to buy wine on Sunday is a trivial complaint and debate.


63 posted on 03/10/2007 11:09:06 AM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
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To: pray4liberty
Tell that to John Edwards. He just outed himself as a Christian.

I disagree. I think he just made a scripted statement pretending to be a Christian so that he can get Christian votes. Much like Hillary in the predominantly black church.

He hired two ultra-leftist women who made careers of ripping Christians to shreds as two of his PR workers. Watch what he does, not what he says.

He also clear cut many acres of land to build his 28,000 square foot mansion (one of many mansions) which no doubt takes a small coal fired power plant to power. He says that he's an environmentalist as well.

64 posted on 03/10/2007 11:09:22 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: PeteB570

We've got a new "blue law" in Illinois. You can't buy a car on Sunday. The source? Car dealers who found that working 7 days a week led to divorce. They want to have a day off too. The only way to take a day off was to force the competition to take a day off too.

The same number of cars get sold, and the salesmen and their wives are happier that the cars get sold in 6 days instead of 7.


65 posted on 03/10/2007 11:14:16 AM PST by Qout
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To: papertyger
Question: does one who believes the inability to purchase alcohol on Sunday amounts to theocracy

Any thinking person says of course not. The people voted to have these laws and the people are not a Theocracy.

Here, let me see if I can help you some (from Merriam Webster) :

theocracy

Main Entry: the·oc·ra·cy Listen to the pronunciation of theocracy
Pronunciation: \thē-ˈä-krə-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Greek theokratia, from the- + -kratia -cracy
Date: 1622

1 : government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided
2 : a state governed by a theocracy

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Please list the officials who have stated that they voted for the Blue Laws because of divine guidance.

66 posted on 03/10/2007 11:14:59 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: WVNan
Personally, I do not even recognize America any more.

When I was younger I didn't believe it was possible that the things in the book of Revelations could come to pass in my lifetime. Now I look around me and I don't believe they will not come to pass in my lifetime.

67 posted on 03/10/2007 11:15:29 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: PeteB570
Man, you could put the T in Taliban Christians. "My way or the highway". Keep posting, you keep making my point.

Nah, I just can't stand little girls screeching about how their parents are just like the Nazis.

68 posted on 03/10/2007 11:15:33 AM PST by papertyger
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird; PeteB570
Please list the officials who have stated that they voted for the Blue Laws because of divine guidance.

PeteB570, you're on.

;o)

69 posted on 03/10/2007 11:20:40 AM PST by papertyger
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To: HitmanLV
Many biblical laws are ignored today even by the most religious folks.

You can say that again. I'll give you an example. I know a woman who claims to be Christian, goes to church every Sunday, and lives in fornication/adultery with her sociopathic, abusive, mentally ill boyfriend who she idol-worships.

She knows, deep in her heart, that she is sinning against God. Her Pastor even told her the crazy boyfriend was a user and an abuser and to get away from him, but she went back to him anyway. The twisted, lying piece of slime convinced her they were "spiritually married."

It states clearly in the Bible that fornicators and adulterers will not inherit the Kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9) Unfortunately, since this kind of behavior is so widespread, today's pastors (other than John Hagee) are too chicken to preach it...they might offend somebody.

It's one thing to hear the Gospel. It's another thing to live it and obey Christ...and that's not easy nor convenient for any of us.

Well, at least her Pastor and I tried to warn her. It fell on deaf ears.

70 posted on 03/10/2007 11:22:05 AM PST by pray4liberty (a saint is a sinner who never gave up.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Paypertyger doesn't. His was in reply to my posts.

I was trying to point out that when Christians start to let their views into "laws" it could lead down the road to a theocracy.

I am wary of anyone who passes laws because of their religious views (I'm talking dancing, drinking, doing thinks on Sunday, stuff like that) . We stand on a fence with slippery side all around us.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
71 posted on 03/10/2007 11:22:11 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Elyse

Yeah...who saw the whole "beheading" thing coming?


72 posted on 03/10/2007 11:22:24 AM PST by papertyger
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To: ChessExpert

The sad irony is that about a third of the country can't see the difference between a Christian who says that homosexuality is sinful and a Muslim who wants to cut your head off for taking your wife out to dinner without first covering her in a bedsheet.

Some of these people plan on voting for Rudy, too.


73 posted on 03/10/2007 11:25:49 AM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: PeteB570
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Which is why I find the whole muslim "men can not make laws, only God can make laws" thing laughable.

Like we Christians have no experience with that. Whoever makes the laws...it's going to be men that interpret and apply them.

74 posted on 03/10/2007 11:27:37 AM PST by papertyger
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To: EternalVigilance

"Peel away enough layers with any liberal, of any sort, and you will find someone who has "unresolved issues" with his Creator."

Absolutely true. If they won't attempt to find God, anything else can be a substitute.

People with no faith at all are often very unhappy. Because this is all their is.


75 posted on 03/10/2007 11:28:46 AM PST by Luke21
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Tell that to John Edwards. He just outed himself as a Christian. /sarcasm off

There, fixed it.

76 posted on 03/10/2007 11:29:22 AM PST by pray4liberty (a saint is a sinner who never gave up.)
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To: papertyger
Sorry, I though I pinged you to post 71.

I used the blue laws as an example of people voting in laws because of their religious beliefs.

There are some small Christian sects in this country that have very different views on how you and I should run our life. Would you like any of them making laws that you had to live under?

Would you like Muslims to gain the majority in an area of this country and pass laws that all had to follow? No selling or possession of Pork products in your county or state perhaps? Hindus? Buddhists?
77 posted on 03/10/2007 11:30:02 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: pray4liberty

My **divine guidance** is obviously weak today :)


78 posted on 03/10/2007 11:30:25 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: pray4liberty
Unfortunately, since this kind of behavior is so widespread, today's pastors (other than John Hagee)

or any Catholic priest...

are too chicken to preach it...

79 posted on 03/10/2007 11:32:12 AM PST by papertyger
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To: PeteB570; papertyger

Dang, I thought I was on a roll and then I made this post. Reread it and realized why the libs love Muslims. They're so much alike.

Darn, I need to log off.


80 posted on 03/10/2007 11:33:20 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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