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The profane crowding out sacred in Mecca (nearing its end?)
IHT ^ | 03/08/07 | Hassan M. Fattah

Posted on 03/08/2007 11:28:17 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

The profane crowding out sacred in Mecca By Hassan M. Fattah

Thursday, March 8, 2007 MECCA: Five times a day across the globe, devout Muslims face this city in prayer, focused on a site where they believe the prophet Abraham built a temple to God. The spot is also the place Muslims are expected to visit at least once in their lives.

Now as they gaze here in their mind's eye, and make the pilgrimage clothed in simple white cotton wraps, they will see something other than the austere black cube known as the Kaaba that occupies the spot. They will also see Starbucks. And Cartier and Tiffany. And H&M and Topshop.

The Abraj Al Bait Shopping Center, one of the largest malls to open in Saudi Arabia, outfitted with flat-panel monitors, neon lights, an amusement park ride, fast-food restaurants and a lingerie shop, is being built directly across from Islam's holiest site.

Not everyone considers this progress.

"Mecca is becoming like Las Vegas, and that is a disaster," said Ali al- Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, a Saudi opposition research organization. "It will have a disastrous effect on Muslims because going to Mecca will have no feeling. There is no charm anymore. All you see is glass and cement."

The mall, which opened a week before the annual hajj pilgrimage in December, is the first in a $13 billion construction boom in Mecca that promises to change how this city, forbidden to everyone but Muslims, looks and feels.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buildingboom; holycity; mecca; shoppingmall
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To: F15Eagle

Ancient urinal?


41 posted on 03/09/2007 7:36:06 AM PST by steve8714 (If Algore is worried about Global Warming he should become a Vegan.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If they're pissed now, wait till they get one of these...


42 posted on 03/09/2007 7:41:59 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Nam Vet
"Those muzzies think of everything! They've even got a bait shop."

LOL....I was thinking the same thing...and not so much as a decent bass pond around for miles!

43 posted on 03/09/2007 7:45:37 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: TigerLikesRooster

21*25'0" North Latitude
39*49'34" East Longtitude
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Nuke it.


45 posted on 03/09/2007 9:11:41 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: saganite

Mutawa I believe


46 posted on 03/09/2007 10:54:59 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Democrats: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: Gamecock; SunkenCiv

I forgot to remind everyone in message #15 that the Starbucks' logo is a woman's face. You know the Saudis are going to try to cover or ban that.


47 posted on 03/09/2007 1:32:20 PM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: F15Eagle

Ah, now I get it. It's the Muslim version of the Blarney Stone? Thanks for enlightening me. LOL!


48 posted on 03/09/2007 1:39:28 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Every Thread a BYJ Thread (http://www.byj.co.kr/))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Mecca is becoming like Las Vegas

The mob is taking over?

49 posted on 03/09/2007 1:41:34 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Gamecock

Sounds like progress to me.


50 posted on 03/09/2007 1:51:55 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: OKSooner; F15Eagle
Looks like a spitoon or a bedpan. I think I kinda already know the answer, but what's the deal with it?

From the article F15Eagle linked (which makes a heck of a lot more sense than Wikipedia), it's the black rock/meteorite that Muslims try to kiss while on their pilgrimage to Mecca. When it broke apart back in the 600sAD, they set the rock in silver. It is usually placed at one of the cornerstones of the Kaaba:


However, the silver thing containing the rock is removable for cleaning, which the tribe in charge of maintaining the Kabaa does once a year. That's why there are people holding it in F15Eagle's original picture. In that picture, it truly looks like a bedpan, spittoon or bad mirror.
52 posted on 03/09/2007 4:03:31 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Berosus
the Starbucks' logo is a woman's face. You know the Saudis are going to try to cover or ban that.
I'd agree with that under certain circumstances...
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53 posted on 03/09/2007 4:58:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

That's right. Thanks.


54 posted on 03/09/2007 8:45:40 PM PST by saganite
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To: Gamecock

Too wacky! I wonder if they'll invite Rick over for "Hajj 2007"?


55 posted on 03/10/2007 9:34:30 AM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No doubt most of the development will be done by the Bin Laden firm, which did most of the renovation to the Grand Mosque. They are one of, if not the largest construction firms in the kingdom.

There's always been speculation that Bin Laden built in back doors and pathways during the work on the Mosque that Osama could use to "appear" at the right moment in the Grand Mosque and declare his Mahdihood. In this most recent construction I'd be more likely to wonder how many tons of plastique was included in the structures.


56 posted on 03/10/2007 10:02:56 AM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Terriergal

Purpose Drive Jihad?


58 posted on 03/10/2007 10:25:33 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock

I guess so!


59 posted on 03/10/2007 11:01:06 AM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: Terriergal

That would tie into Warren denying Christians are persecuted in Syria.


60 posted on 03/10/2007 11:03:32 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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