Posted on 03/06/2007 11:05:27 AM PST by areafiftyone
Rudy Giuliani might have been an inspiration in the days after 9/11, but what relevance does that have now? He might have cleaned up New York City, but why should most Americans care whether, say, Bryant Park is a drug-dealer-infested nightmare or a pleasant place for office workers on a lunch break? The power of Giuliani’s presidential candidacy is in neither of these things per se, but in the allure of executive prowess. A leaked strategy memo from the campaign of Mitt Romney said that the former Massachusetts governor could contrast himself with President Bush with one word, “intelligence.” That is unfair to Bush, who is not an unintelligent man. But the memo was correct in noting how Republican candidates for president will have to contrast their styles and skills with those of Bush. Republicans don’t need more sheer IQ in their next nominee, but more EI not emotional intelligence, as the popular book had it, but executive intelligence. But troubled organizations often look to hire an executive who has succeeded elsewhere. Hence the allure of Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani demonstrated it in New York. He ran the fourth-largest government in the country, from an office that had awesome powers (unlike the governorship of Texas), at a time when the city was in crisis, without a strong party to back him and in the teeth of a hostile press. And he succeeded. That, in a few phrases, is the appeal of Rudy Giuliani.
Fred Siegel describes him in his book Prince of the City as having “a mathematical and military cast of mind,” and quotes a former aide who explains that Giuliani is such a baseball fan because the game brings “together three things that he loves: statistics, teamwork and individual effort.” Siegel compares Rudy’s fascination with the intricacies of government to that of Bill Clinton, who had the same interest in details although without the decisiveness, and the late Sen. Daniel Pat Moynihan, who grasped how government worked but never was an executive.
Giuliani needed little sleep, which made extra hours available to him that he could pour into work. He had talented people around him whom he forged into an instrument of his executive will. Giuliani had daily 8 A.M. meetings to ensure that his deputies and commissioners were on the same page. As a former aide told Siegel, “You could draw a clear line on an organization chart for almost everything the Rudy administration did.”
Giuliani’s axioms of governance, described in his book “Leadership,” now read as a kind of rebuttal to Bush’s hands-off management style. One of his rules is “Always Sweat the Small Stuff.” Another is “Prepare Relentlessly.” He delivered annual 90-minute State of the City addresses without a prepared text: “I presented it from my own head and heart, not from a page.” And “Everyone’s Accountable, All of the Time.” Giuliani kept a two-word sign on his desk: “I’M RESPONSIBLE.”
Famously the first CEO president, Bush has had his reputation as an executive trashed by Katrina and Iraq. Bush had seen his role primarily as setting goals, then remaining resolute and confident about them. But the resolution and confidence are self-defeating if the goals aren’t matched with the appropriate means. Bush has been ill-served by his willingness to stand by failed subordinates (thereby eroding any sense of accountability), by his relative lack of interest in details and by his inability to establish coherence within his own government.
This makes the Competence Primary very important in the Republican nomination contest, and Giuliani is the front-runner in it, although he has competition from Romney, a successful businessman with strong management skills. This doesnt mean that Giuliani will excel in the Temperament Primary. Some of the qualities that made him a successful mayor the hunger for power, the jealousy of other centers of authority, the egocentric drive dont make him the most pleasant person. And the Ideological Primary will be a major challenge.
Only reason I'd come is to run a pack of Foxhounds through Central Park, just think, all that space being wasted!
My idea of fun isn't sitting around drinking and watching wierd people, thank you!
"A Guiliani presidency would be a disaster for many reasons in my opinion, but these pictures will say it all for our enemies both here and abroad."
That's what you hope and that's why you post them 24/7.
We get it.
Well, there you go, declining the invite. NEXT! I won't be checking my bag, thank you, just take it on board with me...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I didn't post the pictures. Even if I had such pictures in my computer, I would have no idea how to post them. Maybe you ought to read the name associated with the posts before you go shooting your mouth off because somebody doesn't agree with your assessment of Rudy?
"Me thinks it's wishful thinking by the RudyHaters."
No, it's actual analysis of poll internals.
You see, naive people look at the poll headlines and see meaning.
People with a clue look to the internals and methodology of the polls to find out what's really going on. Who was polled, when, what questions were asked, etc.
What you see when you do that is obvious - rudy is riding on name recognition - what you'd expect for 22 months from the general election. That gives him high numbers compared to other candidates. But the numbers behind it reveal the people being polled are unaware of his real positions. That's the big problem for rudy.
You can say this about Romney and McCain too. In fact you can probably say it about all the candidates. About the only people tuned in right now are the junkie faction.
The polls don't show it because the pollsters are apparently too dumb to notice the inconsistency in their approach.
If you go, don't breathe, you never know what that air has been run through!
"One-third of voters take issue with a presidential candidate who supports gun control or has been married three times like Rudy Giuliani, a new Time magazine poll shows.......30 percent couldn't back a candidate who favors gun control, while another 35 percent have trouble with someone with three marriages. That includes 48 percent of "born-again" white Christians. But the survey also shows 56 percent don't know Giuliani's marital history, 68 percent don't know his stand on gun control (he's been saying it's a state matter), and nearly 80 percent don't accurately know where he is on abortion rights (he favors it)....Giuliani is partly an unknown quantity nationally..."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1793173/posts?page=100
I know you rudybots don't want to believe it, but when it's closer to two years from the general election than it is to one, any polls are largely meaningless name recognition polls. Most americans aren't paying attention. They're watching american idol. More americans can tell you who got kicked off of the show last week than can tell you rudy's positions on abortion or gun control or illegal immigration.
You rudy boosters are going to be just as deflated as the libs when they early exit polls didn't lead to president kerry. You're investing so much in what is basically hype.
I think you probably wouldn't like thomas sowell's latest column - maybe because it's too true or he's too much of an evil conservative, but I'd give him, oh, about million times more credibility than the rudyboosters.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795869/posts
"Some of us had just gotten used to the fact that it is now 2007, when all sorts of people started acting as if it is 2008.
Polls keep coming out showing who is the front-runner among the many Democratic and Republican candidates for their respective parties' presidential nomination. Why all this hype, this early, about front-runners? Has everyone forgotten the old saying, "In politics, overnight is a lifetime"?
Some of us are old enough to remember "front-runner Ed Muskie" and "front-runner Gary Hart," not to mention "President Dewey." "
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But I guess a noted writer like Sowell is wrong because he doesn't realize "2008 is different!!!".
You're scarin' me...
As a person hemay be okay, but as POTUS he is frightening.
Hey, we don't talk about the water where you come from, do we?
Besides, I'm from the 7th largest city in the country. I know pollution already!
"By contrast you know exactly where Rudy stands, kill them at will."
That's a misquote and you know it.
As for betting, if I were the betting type I'd bet that Rudy is more true to his word than Mitt. Just based on what they've said thus far.
Oh puleeze! Don't get hysterical now.
My post was directed at you.
I gotta think that the picture will be pretty much a non-issue in the election. As far as the Arab St. sure they'll mock it but should they go up against Rudy and loose they and their children and their children's children will have to know that they got their tail kicked at the hands of that (wo)/man.
You presume to tell me what I "hope" and then tell me about posting pictures "24/7"? Facts not in evidence.
"Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
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