Posted on 03/06/2007 10:58:42 AM PST by chesley
Denis Collins said, "We asked ourselves, what is HE doing here? Where is Rove and all these other guys....He was the fall guy."
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This guy probably dominated the jury room.
What about Martha Stewart and Clinton?
Hey jude, check this out. Are you willing to admit that this verdict was a travesty of justice? They nailed Libby because they couldn't nail Rove and Cheney. This is a political verdict. It has nothing to do with the facts or the evidence. I hope the rest of the jury opens up like this.
The jury had no business discussing whether or not Rove should have been a defendant. Yet they deliberated over this issue.
I am depressed. My faith in the judicial system is at an all time low. It makes me embarrassed to say that I am an officer of the court. Any court.
Except there was no underlying crime she was not a covert operative in the time period specified in that law.
And these are Jurors?
Nope.
They nailed Libby because they couldn't nail Rove and Cheney.
That's not what I got from the full statement. They didn't convict him because they couldn't get Rove or Cheney; they wondered why Rove and Cheney didn't face trial either. Doubtless the judge instructed them that they were to consider Libby's guilt alone.
Yet they deliberated over this issue.
I definitely didn't get that from the statement.
Libby lost because they didn't believe the "I forgot" defense. I'd probably have convicted too.
That's not THIS Denis Collins that I saw.
What was it? I did not hear about its specifics.
This jury had 10 whites on it, most of whom were highly educated. I wonder how many were government employees or otherwise getting their full salary while on the jury.
This calls for a mistrial, the sooner the better, this moronic juror was as arrogant as one can be. Fitz is a disgrace as well as Dingy Harry, get rid of all of them.
People who perform their patriotic duty aren't necessarily too stupid to figure out how to get out of it.
Actually if all jurors were liberals that came from roughly the same mind view then a person's politics would not be so noticeable. If a few were conservative then the contrast would be more apparent and politics may have been more obvious. My guess is they were all liberals. Otherwise it would seem there would have been a hung jury.
If this isnt enough for another trial I dont know what is.
Q: "Was he the fall guy for VP Cheney, was that the belief in the jury room?"How can anyone say "we never made any, you know, uhm, came to any conclusion" and in the very next breath state "or we never even discussed whether Cheney would have told him exactly what to say."Denis the Menace: "The belief in the jury room was...that he was tasked by the VP to go and talk to reporters. We never made any, you know, uhm, came to any conclusion or we never even discussed whether Cheney would have told him exactly what to say."
His first statement clearly conveys there was extraneous jury speculation about the Vice President's role, and the immediate second statement is a post hoc attempt to paper over the first statement -- ironically the very thing Libby was accused of doing to the GJ!
The live transcript is very enlightening.
That really astounds me, especially since the juror, when asked if he thought that Tim Russert was believable, said that the testimony of Tim Russert was the most convincing of the whole trial. It was pure he said;he said, and the FBI LOST the notes. Did someone get fired for losing important evidence? /s
This was the same Tim Russert who came to court using crutches and wearing what looked like an old LLBean jacket. It reminded me of Vincent "the chin" Gigante who went around New York wearing his bathrobe so he would look pathetic.
Theodore V. Wells Jr.: Wells is a hard-hitting litigator ... Wells has worked for Bradley on two of Bradley's Senate campaigns and also worked for Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J. Wells was general counsel to the New Jersey Democratic Party and the New Jersey NAACP. He graduated from Princeton University as an undergraduate and received both business and law degrees from Harvard University. Bradley has also drawn upon Wells' experiences and perspectives on race in America, but Wells, who is black, serves the campaign primarily as its treasurer.
"It seemed like he was [guilty]". Read that line again jude. "Seemed like he was" is not beyond a reasonable doubt. Hell, its not even probable. It is nothing more than a definite maybe.
If it only "seemed like he was guilty" then the jury had a duty to aquit. But obviously they had an agenda. They wanted their pound of flesh so they took it out of Libby. Maybe he was guilty. It seemed like it. But they needed to extract punishment from this administration and Libby was the only one they could take a shot at. They wanted Rove, but all they got was Libby.
Excuse me while I go and throw up.
He's an excellent, high-caliber attorney, with decades of a sterling track record. I don't believe for a minute that any partisanship on his part played any part in his defense.
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