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Verdict in Libby Trial in....reading at noon. (Guilty On 4 of 5 Charges)
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Posted on 03/06/2007 8:34:59 AM PST by Dog

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To: Danae

Denis Collins, with the International Spy Museum. SPYING: The Secret History of History. New York: Black Dog & Leventhal Publishers, Inc., 2004. 166 pages, bibliography, photos, index.

This coffee-table book, based on the exhibits found in the immensely popular Washington, DC, International Spy Museum, has an attractive cover. But its subtitle claims far more than its content delivers. In attempting to satisfy “the craving in each of us” to know more about the people, operations, and tradecraft of spying (vi), the museum has produced a disappointing book. It is not a matter of being superficial when covering a wide range of topics, it is a matter of being accurate, especially when the source enjoys considerable authority in the field. SPYING contains far too many errors of fact, both historical and contemporaneous. In the former category, in a discussion of British intelligence, author Daniel Defoe is called “the father of British intelligence” (147) when that accolade goes to Sir Francis Walsingham. In the section on George Washington, America’s first spymaster, the museum tells us that Washington was camped in Valley Forge when he decided to attack the Hessians at Trenton in 1776 (12). History, however, records that Washington’s winter encampment at Valley Forge did not occur until a year later.

In a claim related to more recent events—that World War II double agent Dusko Popov gave the FBI evidence of a planned attack on Pearl Harbor and Director J. Edgar Hoover ignored the warnings—the book errs on both counts. Popov brought no warning, and what he did bring, Hoover gave to the War and Navy departments. The museum’s assertion that William Colby and Ian Fleming were graduates of the World War II paramilitary training facility in Canada, Camp X, is equally in error (27).[5] And then there is the story of William Stephenson, head of British intelligence in New York during World War II (57). Most of the biographical details are incorrect, but, more to the point, some operational details are wrong, too. For example, the claim that Stephenson “delivered to President Franklin Roosevelt the map of a scheme to divide Central and South America into German colonies” leaves out the fact that the map, mentioned by the president in a nationwide radio address, was a fake prepared by Stephenson’s unit to influence American public opinion![6]

Turning to Cold War intelligence, SPYING’s narrative notes that after disbanding the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), President Truman “refused all entreaties to form a peacetime agency to collect and evaluate intelligence” (40). Not so, as historian Thomas F. Troy has shown. On the same day that Truman abolished the OSS, he sent a letter to the secretary of state saying: “I particularly desire that you take the lead in developing a comprehensive and coordinated foreign intelligence program for all Federal agencies concerned with that type of activity. This should be . . . under the State Department.”[7] Then there is the sidebar stating that “In 1947, CIA head Allen Dulles . . . ” when that was a position he would not hold for another six years. In the same vein, KGB illegal Rudolf Abel was not, as the museum claims, “fingered by the newspaper boy.” A KGB defector did that job. When describing Operation GOLD, the tapping of Soviet telephone lines in East Berlin, the suggestion that the Soviets might “wrongly believe that the West had not broken its cipher code, making the intercepts harmless,” is put right by David Murphy and Sergei Kondrachev in their book Battleground Berlin—the lines were not encrypted.

While SPYING gives a good idea of the topics and exhibits to be found in the International Spy Museum, the errors in the descriptive commentary, only some of which are mentioned above, diminish its value as a contribution to intelligence literature and reflect poorly on the reputation of the museum.


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681 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:27 AM PST by maggief
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What did this RAT juror just say about reasonable doubt?

Anyways keep talking, looks like he's obsessed with Cheney, Bush and Rove


682 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:28 AM PST by KavMan
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To: P-Marlowe

CAN YOU SAY APPEAL


683 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:28 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Howlin

They thought they would see President Bush at the trial????


684 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:33 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: sully777

He wanted to see Bush testify?


685 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:34 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: popdonnelly
He didn't learn the magic mantra, "I don't remember".

It does not work for republicans.

686 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:35 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Mo1

Wow... we might even get to see President Bush... said Denis with one N... unreal


687 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:41 AM PST by JFC
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To: Howlin
Rush must on this thread! He just pointed out what we are saying about the Jurors.

This is a great example of a mistrial. The Supremes should weigh in for sure. Talk about a FIXED jury! With Prejudice!
688 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:50 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: KavMan
"RAT juror, Now talking about Libby as fall guy, wanting Cheney and Rove."

Thereby providing more fuel for an appeal. Fitz prejudiced the jury with his closing remarks about Plame, the war, Cheney, Bush, etc., all of which was irrelevant to the charges against Libby. The juror here gives evidence that Fitz's comments - which the judge told the jury to disregard - had their effect.
689 posted on 03/06/2007 10:06:52 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: PilloryHillary
This jury was very confused and was asking questions that prove they didn't even understand the charges!
690 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:06 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Mo1

The jury is suppose to ONLY consider things they are given as evidence.

Appeal City, here we come.

Let him talk ALL afternoon.


691 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:10 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin
He was kind enough to tell the reporters "it's with one N."

As in "Denise". 

692 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:11 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Dave S

Quit trolling for Fitzy. We all know you are a RAT.


693 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:13 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Howlin

And i'm sure he filled all the jurors in on every column published from Pincus, Corn and Vandeghi to the Frontline special on it recently.

I want the jurors to tell me what they based their verdicts on. I've read the testimony and followed this from the beginning... it's not there, period.


I'm praying for the new trial.


694 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:19 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: Enchante

"Well Denis, former WaPo reporter,"

Oh, perfect. Which one does he think he is - Woodward or Bernstein?


695 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:22 AM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: Howlin

Bet he writes a book


696 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:35 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: maggief
SPYING: The Secret History of History (Hardcover) by Denis Collins (Author)

Holy cow. An reporter who authors of a book on spies gets on a jury about somebody lying to reporters about spies.

How does that happen?

697 posted on 03/06/2007 10:07:41 AM PST by magellan
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To: Howlin

Exactly


698 posted on 03/06/2007 10:08:05 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberalism (called Middle of the Road by MSM) = You are free to do as you are told.)
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To: X-FID

"Mark Rich was never sentenced."

Libby's wife would never stoop that low - no pun intended.


699 posted on 03/06/2007 10:08:10 AM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: sully777

Where's the WH

"I can't remember now..." WaPo journalist

IRONY OF IRONIES

Can you take notes in courtroom?


700 posted on 03/06/2007 10:08:11 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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