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1 posted on 03/05/2007 8:55:24 AM PST by aculeus
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They know the only time they can possibly get access to the cockpit is when some one exits or enters. Schedules are routine. Fix the schedules of rest breaks, etc../.......


2 posted on 03/05/2007 9:01:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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I have no doubts that the "probes" continue and the enemy is gathering inforamtion for a future opeartion against us.

It also conitues in the interior of the country at national and regional infrastructure sites.

We must let our people be armed on international flights. These two terrorists should have been dropped on this flight...but there was no one with the weapon to do so.

I believe this, that the passengers, upon learning that ME men have taken a flight, will not allow it to continue, IMHO, viza viz Flight 93 type ction.

3 posted on 03/05/2007 9:04:16 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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4 posted on 03/05/2007 9:05:32 AM PST by Velveeta
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Well it appears we have an idea where the next attack will come from.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 9:05:58 AM PST by stockpirate (Rudy would be Very Bad for this country and Very Bad for the Republican Party!)
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Move along. Nothing to see. Sounds a lot like those "musicians" headed to Vegas a few years ago.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 9:06:51 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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These kinds of stories are a concern but I'm much more worried about MANPADS which have likely already been smuggled in to the US.


10 posted on 03/05/2007 9:11:01 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Oh! The Obamanation! Durka durka durka...)
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aviation ping


12 posted on 03/05/2007 9:12:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Here's hoping no one links to this post in the next 6-18 months in profound retrospect...


14 posted on 03/05/2007 9:19:47 AM PST by GreenAccord
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They will keep trying until they succeed. Terrorists love big explosions and the mass deaths of innocents, which is why the airplane will continue to be the weapon of choice for the foreseeable future.

Stay vigilant, America.
18 posted on 03/05/2007 9:27:29 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Have patience with me Jesus - I'm trying)
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20 posted on 03/05/2007 9:29:23 AM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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22 posted on 03/05/2007 9:31:33 AM PST by Velveeta
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Something is obviously wrong here: "was instructed by a FA to go aft, but didn’t. As the cockpit door opened,. . ."

Why, in the blue blazes, would the flight crew allow the door to be opened with a passenger present who had already disobeyed the FA?!?

23 posted on 03/05/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by the_Watchman
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Thenks for posting. BTTT!


24 posted on 03/05/2007 9:36:46 AM PST by PGalt
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I think the best way to deal with perps like this is to have it pre-arranged with the cockpit crew that upon a certain code word, the 'fasten seat belts' light comes on, the plane drops down to about 2000 feet, and the FFDOs and the FAs grab the sumb!tches, open the emergency door, and just throw their damn asses out.

If it's over land, they won't survive the fall, if it's over water, the sharks have to suck it up and eat some unappetizing food.

Problem solved.

When boarding, all passengers are given multi-language instructions which read "Want to arrive at your destination alive? - Do NOT interfere with the operation of this aircraft, nor with the crew. Any deviation may result in your experiencing a unexpected and violent death."


32 posted on 03/05/2007 9:44:23 AM PST by mkjessup (My mechanic said "I can't fix your brakes, so I made your horn louder" - Stephen Wright)
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"* Armed Federal Flight Deck Officers are not allowed to carry their guns while flying international routes."

Another good reason tofly El Al.

41 posted on 03/05/2007 10:09:43 AM PST by cookcounty (How odd. Lee Hamilton now employed by Sandy Berger: stonebridge-international.com)
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I think the airlines should adopt an updated version of the old maritime tradition of keel-hauling. Let's see how these muzzies like a nice 500+ kt breeze in their faces.
43 posted on 03/05/2007 10:13:26 AM PST by LIConFem
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One of the perps [perpetrators] was in the forward galley, was instructed by a FA to go aft, but didn’t.

THAT should have triggered a "lockdown" and general high security status. On a commercial passenger aircraft, there should be ZERO tolerance for passengers not complying with crew members' instructions. No English? How much English does it take to understand when a crew member is pointing aft and saying something directly to you in a stern voice?

"No English" should not be an excuse, but it would be a good idea to have all passengers required to list what languages they understand when purchasing a ticket, and print an instruction on their ticket in one of those languages and in English that if any crew member says something to you that you don't understand, you should respond by immediately returning to your own seat and sitting down in it, or to a different seat if the crew member leads you to a different one. It's a simple concept, and wouldn't be hard to make part of common knowledge, just like buckling your seat belt for take-off and landing. It would enable passengers to demonstrate that they are attempting to behave appropriately, and enable crew to quickly identify passengers who are not attempting to behave appropriately and be legally protected if they use physical force to control such a passenger.

45 posted on 03/05/2007 10:16:47 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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May or may not have been a probe, but I seriously doubt it was an attempt to take over the plane, unless they just wanted to destroy it alone. Mid-Atlantic is way too far out to use the plane as a weapon.


49 posted on 03/05/2007 10:28:48 AM PST by green iguana
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These perps should have been sent to an interrogation facility and been introduced to the water board. These incidents, like those of the praying Imams in Minneapolis, are clearly tests of current security measures and we can soon expect more plane hijackings by the religion of peace.


53 posted on 03/05/2007 10:41:43 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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For later review.

I honestly think that the airline trick is out for now. But we need to keep aware.


54 posted on 03/05/2007 10:48:56 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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