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Tables turned on Fahrenheit 9/11’s maker
The Sunday Times ^ | March 4, 2007 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 03/04/2007 4:44:31 AM PST by MadIvan

THE hunter has become the hunted. Michael Moore, the celebrated left-wing film-maker, has become the unwilling subject of a new documentary that raises damaging questions about the credibility of his work.

The director and star of successful documentaries such as Roger & Me, Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore has repeatedly been accused by his right-wing enemies of distorting or manipulating the material in his films. On his website he dismisses his critics as “wacko attackos”.

Yet the latest assault on Moore’s film-making techniques has come from an unexpected quarter. In Manufacturing Dissent, a documentary to be shown for the first time at a Texas film festival on Saturday, a pair of left-wing Canadian film-makers take Moore to task for what they describe as a disturbing pattern of fact-fudging and misrepresentation.

“When we started this project we hoped to have done a documentary that celebrated Michael Moore. We were admirers and fans,” said Debbie Melnyk, who made the film with her husband, Rick Caine. “Then we found out certain facts about his documentaries that we hadn’t known before. We ended up very disappointed and disillusioned.”

Melnyk and Caine are best known for their previous documentary Citizen Black, about Conrad Black, the Canadian-born former proprietor of The Daily Telegraph. Last week both of them acknowledged an important debt to Moore for popularising the documentary genre.

Yet when Caine and Melnyk began to follow him as part of their own documentary, their efforts to interview him met with the same kind of obstruction, denial and, ultimately, physical ejection that Moore had suffered when he tried to track down Roger Smith, the former chief executive of General Motors, for his first film, Roger & Me.

It was in Flint, Michigan, Moore’s former home town, that Caine and Melnyk made the first discovery that they say rocked their confidence in his approach. Roger & Me was a hugely successful account of what Moore portrayed as a fruitless task to force Smith to answer questions about GM’s policies in closing the car manufacturing plants that had long been Flint’s economic lifeline.

Caine and Melnyk claim that Moore interviewed Smith on camera twice. But the scenes were left on the cutting room floor, apparently for greater dramatic effect.

Manufacturing Dissent includes a long catalogue of alleged exaggerations or distortions in several of Moore’s films. In Bowling for Columbine, a scathing indictment of US gun violence, Moore visited Toronto to show parts of the city that were supposedly so free of crime everyone left their front doors unlocked.

“In the film, Michael makes it look as though 100% of the doors were unlocked, but his local producer told us it was really only 40%,” said Caine.

Caine and Melnyk said they had hoped to interview Moore about his views on how much editing was acceptable before a factual documentary turned into misleading propaganda.

“We had met him at a premiere of the Columbine film in Toronto, and he said, ‘Oh yes, talk to my people and they’ll set something up’,” said Caine. “We then called his people and they said he’s not doing any more interviews in Toronto. We had his e-mail, we sent a letter to his lawyers, we had his phone number in New York. But each time he said no.”

Then Caine and Melnyk began to run into open hostility. Eventually, in a scene that might have come from Roger & Me, they were bundled out of an event at Kent State University, where Moore’s sister, Anne, knocked aside Caine’s camera.

Moore is reportedly editing his next film, Sicko, about the US healthcare system, and a spokesman said he had no comment on Manufacturing Dissent. On his website he dismissed critics of Bowling for Columbine as “lying liars” and claimed that “organised groups [are] going full blast trying to discredit me”.

Yet Caine and Melnyk insist they should not be confused with the right-wing hordes who want to damage Moore.

“If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?” said Melnyk.

“If we think it’s wrong for the government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that [left-wingers] doing it is the solution?”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fahrenheit911; fatbastard; moore; turnabout
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Anyone who saw "Fahrenhype 9/11" knew all this.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 03/04/2007 4:44:33 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/04/2007 4:44:54 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
All this applies direction to albore's inconvenient truth as well. Lies and distortions abound.

Most hilariously....yesterday's NYSlimes issues a correction about the famous, infamous, photo of the polar bears on the ice. They state that they're sorry for misattributing the picture to the wrong artist.

No mention of the deliberate misrepresentation of what the polar bears were doing on the ice floes.

3 posted on 03/04/2007 4:48:24 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: MadIvan
“If we think it’s wrong for the government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that [left-wingers] doing it is the solution?”

Ah, a rare moment of clarity from a leftist. Apparently they haven't read the Stalinist Handbook.
4 posted on 03/04/2007 4:49:41 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: MadIvan

Thanks to Michael Moore, I think that Roger Smith is a great American.


5 posted on 03/04/2007 4:51:59 AM PST by pnh102
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To: MadIvan

Further proof that truth to the left is that which advances their goals.

Factuality is irrelevant.


6 posted on 03/04/2007 4:52:02 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: OldFriend

Its this comfort with lying and not being called up on it that makes the parasitic left just so much more dangerous. The only way the core left can obtain votes in this country is if they could hide their real agenda just long enough to gain control. Nobody in their right mind would vote for them once they knew the leftist agenda.


7 posted on 03/04/2007 4:53:46 AM PST by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: voletti

it worked in the last election like a charm.


8 posted on 03/04/2007 4:56:05 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

The only place it didn't was here in Tennessee where we held the line. One of the best things a number of us did, inclujding your truly, was get letters to the editor published showing what a fraud Harold Ford, Jr. was when he ran for the Senate trying to look like a conservative.


9 posted on 03/04/2007 5:13:46 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Jacquerie

Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

Dean Wormer

Animal House

A prophecy for Michael Moore


10 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:13 AM PST by the anti-mahdi
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To: MadIvan
Moore is reportedly editing his next film, Sicko, about the US healthcare system

The poster boy for the obese lifestyle is making a documentary blasting the US healthcare system?

This is an Onion piece, right? :-)
11 posted on 03/04/2007 5:19:32 AM PST by cgbg (Algore's carbon footprint is exceeded only by his waistline.)
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To: MadIvan
“If we think it’s wrong for the government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that [left-wingers] doing it is the solution?”

Moore is right, they aren't liberals...liberals would never ask such a question. Hypocrisy is a core tenant of the dem world view...for them.

All Moore has done is revise documentaries as propaganda in a way that hasn't been seen since Leni Riefenstahl.

12 posted on 03/04/2007 5:21:34 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"If we think it's wrong for the government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that [left-wingers] doing it is the solution?"

Ah, a rare moment of clarity from a leftist. Apparently they haven't read the Stalinist Handbook


This sounds like the thoughts David Horowitz was having before he switched to our side.

We should prepare our warm welcome to Free Republic. :-)
13 posted on 03/04/2007 5:29:24 AM PST by cgbg (Algore's carbon footprint is exceeded only by his waistline.)
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To: MadIvan

This has been done before in Michael Moore Hates America


14 posted on 03/04/2007 5:30:36 AM PST by SShultz460
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To: MadIvan

Michael Moore is a 'director and star', but people who criticize him are his 'right-wing enemies'?


15 posted on 03/04/2007 5:34:34 AM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: MadIvan
"If a GOP candidate is weak on any of these issues..we might just as well have a DemocRat."

Very true!

- The AP said they gave Moore 4 1/2 minutes of President Bush sitting in the classroom when he got the news of 9/11. Moore extended it to 7 minutes. The 9/11 Report actually says: "4 1/2 - 7 minutes."

- Moore said the Saudis were flown out of the USA during the period when the planes were grounded. The 9/11 Report and the FAA say no planes left the USA during the grounded period.

- Moore showed an oil pipeline actually in the process of being built in Afghanistan and said that Halliburton was building it and that was the reason for the war in Afghanistan. No pipeline was ever built by Halliburton or started by Halliburton in Afghanistan.

- Moore showed some members of the Taliban in the USA in 1998 and tried to make it look like they were meeting with Bush and Halliburton. In actuality, the Taliban were allowed into the USA by Clinton's State Department and they were not meeting Bush nor Halliburton but rather UNOCAL. UNOCAL blew off the idea of a pipeline in Afghanistan in 1998.

There is more fraud in that movie of his but that's a good sample of what a low-life he is.

16 posted on 03/04/2007 5:35:48 AM PST by avacado
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To: MadIvan

Well he did sit next to Jammey Carter at a recent deocRAT convention. Now I realize they must have been sitting in the Fact-Fudger section of the gallery. (Of course the rest of the auditorium was dived among sections for Outright Liars, Enablers, Mercenary Attack Dogs and Misguided Twits).


17 posted on 03/04/2007 5:38:03 AM PST by rod1
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To: Jacquerie
“If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?” said Melnyk.

Jacqueri: Further proof that truth to the left is that which advances their goals.

Well said. IOW to the left their goals are "a greater truth" just because they are their goals.

18 posted on 03/04/2007 5:40:38 AM PST by Sal (Once you know they sold USA out to Red China, what do you think they would NOT do?)
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To: cgbg
This sounds like the thoughts David Horowitz was having before he switched to our side.

I agree that we may have the opportunity to welcome them into the light.

19 posted on 03/04/2007 5:45:01 AM PST by Sal (Once you know they sold USA out to Red China, what do you think they would NOT do?)
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To: libstripper

And there was Ann Coulter on with Donny Deutch of the Big Show.......telling him she wished Harold Ford was a republican so she could vote for him. She was just so impressed with Harold Ford.


20 posted on 03/04/2007 5:47:18 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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