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1 posted on 03/04/2007 2:13:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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<<<..."I think that people like him, and likeability is a big, big factor in presidential politics," a senior Republican strategist said. "Right now, I think his numbers reflect that. As you get closer to the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, likeability may give way to vote-determinative issues, like abortion."

Said Ayres: "I don't think there's any question those issues will come into play. The question is, will they get traction?">>>

2 posted on 03/04/2007 2:15:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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The sooner the Rudy question is resolved, the better off we will be as a party.


3 posted on 03/04/2007 2:17:17 AM PST by joseph20
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Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
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5 posted on 03/04/2007 2:21:31 AM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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Rudy is not my first choice, and maybe not even my second choice -- I am still hoping that Duncan Hunter gets enough traction to make it. But, come what may, I would still prefer him over any Democrat -- with the possible exception of Lieberman if only because I think he would be good foreign policy-wise.

One of the things that has always bothered me about Bush is that he is just too "nice" to the people we know are evil, doing evil things, and killing Americans while they're at it.

I want a President who has the gumption and the fortitude to tell the UN to put a sock in it. I want a President who is willing to tell the covert jihad-jockies of the world that we are not going to play pussy-cat with them and roll over while they finance an insurrection that is taking American lives, terrorists who are targeting Americans in our homeland, or in the homelands of our allies -- and most of all a President who is willing to tell the Congress to go pi$$ up a rope and veto a few bills.

Rudy plays hardball. I don't agree with his positions on gays or abortion or a lot of other things, but there is no question he has backbone and is willing to slice the raw, red meat.


15 posted on 03/04/2007 2:35:00 AM PST by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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I'm sure he has a chance with a good number of republican voters...and no chance at all with another fairly significant portion of republican voters. So if he's the republican candidate it's likely the republican base will be split and the dems will likely win the White House. Counting on people to vote the party ticket because it's not as horrific as the opposition is a very weak strategy. No matter what you WILL lose some of the base. Wouldn't have taken very many in 2000 to have changed the outcome...and not that many more to have changed it in 2004. It's a bad bet.
23 posted on 03/04/2007 2:43:01 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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And the Republican party goes down the tubes.


25 posted on 03/04/2007 2:46:29 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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WP & NYT and the rest of the libmedia are determined to keep drumming how the ex-mayor is the perfect GOP candidate.

This is pure propaganda. If they repeat it enough times, they think they can wear down the base with slanted polls.
34 posted on 03/04/2007 2:52:15 AM PST by George W. Bush
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Of course he does. If he didn't, the attacks on him would not be so nasty and immature.


44 posted on 03/04/2007 3:09:53 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (I support the President and the war on terror!)
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The last time there was such blind loyalty to a left winger was during and after BJ Clinton until Rudy.
WHY?
56 posted on 03/04/2007 3:22:27 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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I am a social conservative but would support Guliani because of his strong leadership in the fight on terror. I would justify it by saying that the primary attribute of our next President must be leadership due to extreme challenges that this country faces in the War on Terror and Guliani is the strongest leader of any candidate that is running. Besides in the bast 30 years 3 republican Presidents have failed to fix or push any of the social conservative causes anyway all they have managed to do is stem the tide. The slippery slope looms every closer.


58 posted on 03/04/2007 3:24:39 AM PST by tomnbeverly (I say red states should just secede, lets get it over with.)
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Giuliani's well-deserved celebrity appeal from his Sept. 11 response

Are we to believe that a "lesser" person would have run from the city? Excused the attacks? What? I am reminded of the decades old advertisement claim "ProductX gives you more!"

87 posted on 03/04/2007 3:45:04 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Giuliani "looks like he can beat Hillary, make the party competitive again in the Northeast, competitive again in California

Yeah, like we're looking for Rudy SchwarzenKennedy. No thanks.

88 posted on 03/04/2007 3:46:14 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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his complex business dealings will be subjected to withering scrutiny

I just love euphemized reports.

Mr. Giuliani, what are your connections, if any, to Carlos Slim and Carlos Hank González? Any other of Mexicorruption's rich and powerful that we should know about?

92 posted on 03/04/2007 3:54:54 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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He doesn't have an icecube's chance in hell.


95 posted on 03/04/2007 3:59:42 AM PST by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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Mr. Giuliani, you said that you "understand" the Second Amendment rights. Do you "understand" the concept of a Nation of Laws not Men?

The mayor failed in federal court to overturn a 1996 federal law which declared that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS.

According to "Crime & the Illegal Alien. The Fallout from Crippled Immigration Enforcement" a June 2004 report by Heather Mac Donald (www.cis.org)

"On September 5, 2001, [Mayor Giuliani's] hand-picked charter revision committee ruled that New York may still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later . . . ."

Yes, I know that most if not all of the 19 entered legally -- ILLEGAL aliens include those who overstay their authorization. Yes, I know that they did not fly out of New York City but I can imagine what would have happened if they had and they had been stopped on the way to the airport; to wit, "Oops, sorry sir. The mayor says we can't touch you but you really ought to touch base with the INS. Have a good day, sir."

100 posted on 03/04/2007 4:16:53 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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105 posted on 03/04/2007 4:27:28 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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I know of 4 GOP voters that WILL be voting for RUDY.....


110 posted on 03/04/2007 4:47:28 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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said Ed Gillespie, ... "Rudy Giuliani is a candidate who can clearly test the proposition that a Republican who is more moderate on social issues can capture the nomination. He's testing it now."

This is a lie. Being pro-abortion, even pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gay military, pro-gay adoption, etc. is NOT being a "moderate on social issues". If that was so, then all of the Democrats are moderates and not liberals. And we all know that the Democrats are liberals on social issues. Giuliani's views are square with the Democrats on social issues and, therefore, he is a liberal along with them. There are extremes on both sides of these issues. The Republican Party opposes abortion and the radical gay agenda. The Republican Party is not extreme on these issues despite their opposition. I would say that the Republican Party's position on social issues is the moderate one. Giuliani's views are way past the moderation line set by the Republican Party and well into the Democrat liberal territory. He is not a moderate on these issues. If Gillespie thinks Giuliani's views are moderate, then that explains why I never got along with Gillespie while he was the party chairman and further explains why the party continued its slide to the left, abandonment of traditional principles among its candidates, and eventually took a beating in 2006.

122 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:26 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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For the life of me I cannot understand why it is so difficult for anyone to understand the popularity of Giulliani. This election is not about abortion rights or gun control anymore then any other election was. Despite how the loony left thinks abortion is first and foremost on the minds of most Americans, it is not as has been proved again and again.

No folks, In a world where relativity is a constant, what is important is determined by what we face on a daily basis. Now, today and for the discernible future, what we are facing is a threat to our very way of life and in fact our very lives. Man's greatest and most powerful instinct is to LIVE. If you believe as I do that a Democrat in the WH in 2008 will make our desire to live less likely in the near term and almost non existent in the long term, then it becomes an easy choice between a Hillary and a Rudy (if he turns out to be the candidate).

I want to win because I want to live and I want my kids and grand children to live. If Rudy is nominated I will vote for him. If McCain is nominated I will vote for him and if Gingrich is nominated I will vote for him. We can disagree during the nomination process. It is healthy and necessary for all views to be heard. That said, once this process is done and a candidate selected for our Party, I pray all of us can get behind him no matter who it turns out to be.

The alternative is simply not acceptable.
146 posted on 03/04/2007 7:19:06 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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..if frontloaded primaries and name-recognition are going to be the dominant influences in the nominating process--

the mayor may get the nomination--and the Republican party as we know it will have died.

..but it's only March...

147 posted on 03/04/2007 7:20:13 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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