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Meanie For President (Hillary "Bashing" by Newt and Geffen?)
Creators.com ^ | March 2, 2007 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:52 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Newt says she's nasty.

Geffen says she's ambitious.

The name-calling part of the presidential campaign is clearly in full swing. Next thing you know, someone will tell us she's not pretty enough to be president, and maybe that will be "news," too. After ambitious and nasty, could ugly be far behind?

Is this really the best the Clinton critics can do?

If Hillary Clinton were running for Miss Congeniality, she'd have reason to fear the latest rounds of criticism being lobbed at her and her campaign. "Miss United States" may not be in her grasp, but so what?

Since when is being "nice" the basis for being president? Since when does the nicest candidate win?

As Newt surely can tell you, politics is not a nice business. It does not reward those who can't take the heat, won't throw the mud back, or are lacking in either toughness or ambition.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Georgia; US: Iowa; US: New York
KEYWORDS: conservatives; defeatocrats; democrats; election2008; gop; hillaryclinton; newtgingrich; republicans
Professor Susan Estrich, who brought us the entertaining Dukakis campaign, shares her political wisdom on the subject of Senator Hillary Clinton.
1 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So says the seducer of the neighborhood boys.


2 posted on 03/04/2007 1:51:59 AM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, Susan, now that you bring it up, she really isn't attractive enough to be President. Ann Coulter she'll never be, but I realize that's setting the bar awfully high! To be perfectly honest though, she just does not meet most people's expectations.

YOU honestly think Americans will settle for an angry, overgrown chipmunk, with the voice range of a fishwife? Personally, I think we can do better, and that's probably the understatement of the year!!
3 posted on 03/04/2007 2:07:15 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Her THighness Hillary Rotten Clinton needs a little sympathy vote to put IT over the top, BJ Clinton better hire a food taster.
4 posted on 03/04/2007 2:26:48 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: singfreedom

"an angry overgrown chipmunk"

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

"voice range of a fishwife"

Heh, heh!

;^)


5 posted on 03/04/2007 3:33:58 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: singfreedom

LOL!! Good one, singfreedom!!


6 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:17 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boy, Estrich is treading on dangerous ground by bringing up "ugly".


7 posted on 03/04/2007 4:06:25 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Newt says she's nasty.

Geffen says she's ambitious.

These are compliments as compared with the truth. What's her beef?

8 posted on 03/04/2007 4:18:11 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Is this really the best the Clinton critics can do"

Well, actually "mean-spirited" is a well used criticism used by the left. Of course it is out of line to use it ON the left........

9 posted on 03/04/2007 4:37:30 AM PST by cb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Number one: Newt didn't call her nasty... He was responding to a question about "Nasty Rudy's" electability and he made the obvious comparison.

Second: likeability has always been a critical component of a presidential candidate's prospects -- maybe the MOST critical. Tom Dewey's campaign suddenly started sinking when he let his anger show at a whistle-stop event in his campaign in 1948. He showed his nasty side.

Richard Nixon wasn't likeable in 1960 and the dark personality was reflected in his debate personae. After 8 years of stumping for Republicans and showing a "sunny disposition", he was more likeable and elected in 1968.

Even Jimmy Carter seemed homespun and likeable -- once we got to know the small, nerdy, control-freak amateur in the White House, nobody wanted anything more to do with him.

Yes, Hillary may benefit from any "victimizing" she can claim -- but we also don't elect victims to the Presidency. Imagine this country enduring 4 (or 8) years of Hillary's screeching, whining, and demagoging along with her speeches which put people to sleep.

Dems may idolize her -- shows what idiots they truly are. The great American populace will not, I don't think, put the power of the presidency into the hands of this shrew.


10 posted on 03/04/2007 4:45:07 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Yes, Hillary may benefit from any "victimizing" she can claim -- but we also don't elect victims to the Presidency.

Especially at this time in our history with a billion psychos drooling to kill all of us unless we convert to their death cult. The CIC can NOT be a pathetic, weak, little victim or doormat to her Svengali.

Unfortunately poor Susan seems to equate Hillary's mean, nasty viciousness with strength and "toughness". They are NOT the same thing.

I hope you are right that voters are intelligent enough to see through Hillary when she attacks and then retreats right back behind her own skirts trying to make the opponent look like a "meanie".

We cannot afford a nasty, weak little victim for a leader. Not now.

11 posted on 03/04/2007 5:22:14 AM PST by Sal (Once you know they sold USA out to Red China, what do you think they would NOT do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is a wonder that Susan can remove her mouth long enough from other Clinton-related activities to expound on such things.


12 posted on 03/04/2007 5:49:51 AM PST by rod1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about dishonest, Susan?

Just like you.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 5:50:53 AM PST by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is this really the best the Clinton critics can do?

Not by a longshot.

BTW Ms. Estrogen, any thoughts on the 'name calling' attacks on then candidate and eventual President Ronald Reagan or then candidate and now President George W. Bush?

14 posted on 03/04/2007 5:55:14 AM PST by NewLand (Always remember September 11, 2001)
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Geffen called her a little bit more than just ambitious, Susan. Unusually good liar is what he said.
15 posted on 03/04/2007 5:55:38 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Sal

Bingo, Sal! Hillary seems to me to be the very antithesis of a LEADER. Nasty, weak little victim -- imagine Hillary trying to win the Cold War during the 1980's... It doesn't happen.


16 posted on 03/04/2007 6:01:12 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"Newt says she's nasty."

Newt needs to apolgize immediately. Go to a re-education camp. That statement might alienate voters who plan to vote for Hillary.


17 posted on 03/04/2007 6:45:48 AM PST by sergeantdave
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Professor Susan Estrich ...

What you can take away from this article ... Estrich is concerned that much of what is being pointed out by conservatives concerning the 'Beast' will stick. Some eighteen months from now when the 'Rats have their convention ... Hillary will be so marginalized she won't get the nomination.

18 posted on 03/04/2007 6:56:17 AM PST by BluH2o
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