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CPAC Straw Poll: The Results (Romney Wins)
Hugh Hewitt's Blog on Townhall.com ^ | 3/3/2007 | Patrick Ruffini

Posted on 03/03/2007 2:38:10 PM PST by Pyro7480

Romney wins narrowly while Rudy Giuliani (a client) finishes a strong second:

Romney 21%
Giuliani 17%
Brownback 15%
Gingrich 14%
McCain 12%

On combined first and second place choices, it's a win for Rudy:

Giuliani 34%
Gingrich 30%
Romney 30%

That's not too shabby. Romney's people spent thousands of dollars getting their folks to CPAC. It seemed like every other person in line for Romney's speech yesterday had an official Mitt t-shirt on -- and he certainly was being attacked as though he was the man to beat. Even so, Rudy manages to pull off a near-win by just showing up and has the most first and second place votes.

The question of whether conservatives can support Rudy Giuliani was answered pretty decisively this week.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; cpac; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; hunter; liberalgop; romney; rudy; rudy2008; wheresduncan
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To: azcap

Let me try to put this in basic language. If a candidate is going to pay the way to people to attend something like CPAC, pay them to hand out literature, etc., then he had better win by at least a 15-20% margin. Because if you have candidates that do not have a presence in large numbers and one of those candidates comes close for first and wins when you combine 1st and 2nd, that candidate that spent all the money just wasted it by not wiping out the field. That is not criticizing someone for paying money to send people to CPAC, that is posting reality and why it was a bad move if you don't win big.

I don't care if he wants to spend his whole campaign war chest to send people to CPAC, but I will stand on my theory that it was a bad move to pay when no one else did and not win big.


181 posted on 03/03/2007 6:56:50 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: My GOP
It should, but then again there is some willful ignorance around.

That's an understatement.

182 posted on 03/03/2007 6:57:54 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: PhiKapMom

I wouldn't worry about it so much. Who cares?


183 posted on 03/03/2007 6:58:22 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (IWAWW)
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To: All

So where was Hunter? Not too high on the list I see. Rudy #2 at CPAC. Not too shabby!


184 posted on 03/03/2007 6:59:14 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Comparing CPAC to the Free Republic
I have exhibited at CPAC for several years and the make up  of that crowd is the most conservative demographic you will find at any large political gathering. The FR has a lot more libertarian and social liberals than you will ever find at CPAC. With that in mind Guilianni's showing is pretty good. He got 17% from a crowd that is MAYBE 8% pro-choice. Romney is polished and his message is Reaganesque and appealing. There are only 10% of that crowd that could by any definition be called "moderate" so with Rudy taking those, Romney's votes are coming from what his FR critics would call "real conservatives." His votes came at the expense of the other "true conservative" candidates like Brownback, Hunter, and Gingrich. As for his having a huge contingent of volunteers to pack the polls (1) good for him (2) Gingrich always has a following like that at CPAC and other big events yet did not do as well. The only big surprise I see is McCain actually getting 12%. And as for so many Freepers dismay at Hunters showing - It's not that CPAC is a bunch of liberals and Rockefeller types. It is the farthest thing from that. If you polled the CPAC attendees I guarantee that 95% like Duncan Hunter and think he'd be a great president. The problem for Hunter is that even among the most ideologically friendly crowd he cannot convince serious minded people he can win the nomination or the general.

185 posted on 03/03/2007 7:00:22 PM PST by azcap
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To: PhiKapMom
Romney's people spent thousands of dollars getting their folks to CPAC. It seemed like every other person in line for Romney's speech yesterday had an official Mitt t-shirt on -- and he certainly was being attacked as though he was the man to beat. Even so, Rudy manages to pull off a near-win by just showing up and has the most first and second place votes.

The question of whether conservatives can support Rudy Giuliani was answered pretty decisively this week.

Bumpity bump.

186 posted on 03/03/2007 7:05:00 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

So how many terrorists has Rudy killed or imprisoned since 9/11? Do you have a round number?


187 posted on 03/03/2007 7:06:38 PM PST by JCEccles (Coulter chambers her words in .50 caliber, on a belt. If it scares you, leave the room.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

It is amazing to me how well he did with such short notice he was attending and basically no ground game. Speaks volumes about his support.


188 posted on 03/03/2007 7:12:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: JCEccles

most campaigns do not spend money on votes that don't count...the vote that counts is on election day...the campaigns get votes in straw polls and at places like CPAC without spending money....


189 posted on 03/03/2007 7:13:08 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: deport
Thanks for the link to the CPAC straw poll. I liked this question:

All things being equal, would you be MOST likely to support a Republican candidate for President who called themselves a…

Ronald Reagan Republican: 79%

George Bush Republican: 3%

Not exactly a group of Bushbots.

190 posted on 03/03/2007 7:13:15 PM PST by TChad (:)
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To: PhiKapMom

lol...fer sure


191 posted on 03/03/2007 7:14:07 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: PhiKapMom

Indeed it does. He did very well.


192 posted on 03/03/2007 7:14:17 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: JCEccles

How many terrorists has your preferred candidate (or any candidate, Democrat or Republican, for that matter) killed or imprisoned since 9/11?


193 posted on 03/03/2007 7:14:59 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: PhiKapMom

yes it was and same as it was in Spartanburg...


194 posted on 03/03/2007 7:17:52 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I think Romney and Giuliani can both pleased with their results from CPAC. Mitt because he won and Rudy because he did so well among what is the hardest group of people he will ever address short of a Pro-Life rally. Just because Romney spent money and "campaigned" for the poll doesn't mean he needs to get a huge margin to "really win." In 99 GWB was the clear front runner (Like Rudy today in scientific polls) but only beat Gary Bauer by 7 pts. In a crowded field no one is going to win big but the front runner and anyone else who pulls off a win has something to show for it. Mitt got his obvious win. Rudy got his as well but to see it you have to really understand what it means for a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-gun control, candidate to get 17% at CPAC means. It's like Pat Buchannan polling 60% in San Francisco.


195 posted on 03/03/2007 7:18:34 PM PST by azcap
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To: AmericaUnited

Smart conservatives know that Hunter has the proverbial snowball's chance in Hell of winning the general election.


196 posted on 03/03/2007 7:20:33 PM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: SoCalPol

well that's a really good excuse for them having their heads in the sands...reality is what it is so is politics...


197 posted on 03/03/2007 7:25:40 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: rjp2005

"Hunter is getting blackballed by these clowns. They're gonna shut him out of the entire election process because he's new and doesn't have as much political capitol."

Gee, every previous candidate had to run the same guantlet.

Why should Hunter be trusted as smart enough to manage a big old country, if he can't get in with the big boys, learn the rules, and compete effectively?

He is underfunded, lacks national experience, is little known, etc. Thus far since he announced in Oct. he has done little to convince observers he has the skill and smarts to overcome his starting weaknesses.


198 posted on 03/03/2007 7:31:17 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: azcap
Though I think you overstate things a bit by calling Rudy pro-abortion and pro-homosexual, I agree that he performed very well in this straw poll.

It's like Pat Buchannan polling 60% in San Francisco.

LOL, that's funny.

199 posted on 03/03/2007 7:35:05 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: PhiKapMom

I gotta agree with ya there...they just don't get it I've posted enough myself amazing isn't it...the only votes that count are on election day


200 posted on 03/03/2007 7:37:59 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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