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The Next Reagan? (re: Fred Thompson)
intellectual conservative dot com ^ | 1-25-07 | bruce walker

Posted on 03/02/2007 7:25:52 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, could we have a poll with Fred Thompson in the mix?

I, as an ultra conservative conservative (LOL) could support him, and it seems that some of the Rudyphiles could, too.
It would be nice to have a candidate acceptable to a majority.


181 posted on 03/03/2007 10:47:34 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: doug from upland

The next Reagan? Let him spend two successful terms as governor of California and then call us. We'll see.


182 posted on 03/03/2007 10:50:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sturm Ruger

The reason I say so is because the principal knock on Hunter is that he's unknown. In this essay, he isn't even mentioned as a dark horse. And it's an insider conservative essay. So if he can't even get a mention here...that's quite a row to hoe.


183 posted on 03/03/2007 11:49:38 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: ntnychik
"...Hunter-Thompson ticket. Yikes, the press will call it the gonzo ticket, er, gonzo..."

Geez, I hope so ............ FRegards

184 posted on 03/03/2007 12:13:12 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Politicalmom

While I respect Fred he did co-sponsor and was a strong proponent of McCain-Feingold and is a good friend of John McCain. He once was pro-"choice" but changed his views before running for the Senate. He also seems soft on immigration. That said, he seems better than the current "frontrunners."


185 posted on 03/03/2007 12:17:15 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: doug from upland; dirtboy
Giuliani has lost valuable campaign papers, which might compromise a promising candidacy. ????>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And now he will run as an idependent?

What papers did he lose, can anyone catch me up on this?

186 posted on 03/03/2007 2:09:37 PM PST by Candor7
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I like Hunter, but I'm being a realist. Until he can raise the cash and the Big Mo', he's a fringe candidate...

He's pulling a lot of publicity. There was a big strall poll the other day and RUDY pulled 48% but HUNTER came in #2 with 45%! I'm pretty sure a lot of folks are going to sit up and take notice. McCLAME seems to be spiralling down like a fighter hit by a SAM. He's self destructing. Nobody trusts MITT and Rudy will be impaled by the NRA. Gingrich has a great shot but he's got to get in the game...soon. I'd go for a Gingrich/Hunter ticket.

187 posted on 03/03/2007 2:31:49 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: gpapa

I did notice his votes on immigration toughened up considerably after 2000.


188 posted on 03/03/2007 3:04:37 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: gpapa

Oops. I repeated myself. Sorry, I am on two Thompson threads and got them mixed up. *Blush*


189 posted on 03/03/2007 3:05:41 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: wku man

There is still a long way to go. I could vote for Hunter, Tancredo or Romney in the primaries over McCain, Rudy and Newt. Much prefer Fred.


190 posted on 03/03/2007 3:38:21 PM PST by barker ( A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.)
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To: Huck

Huck, I can't speak for other Duncan Hunter supporters, just myself. I'm a conservative whose #1 goal is to get a conservative in the White House again. If Fred Thompson throws his hat in the ring, then the chances of getting a conservative elected president will be greatly improved.

I'm going to back the conservative candidate who has the best chance of getting elected. Since I consider Thompson to be far more electable than Rep. Hunter, I would change my allegiance to help achieve my goal.

Would I have regrets? Sure, I don't like Thompson's stand on the immigration issue. But if I allow a gun-grabber like Rudy to be nominated and elected, then I've cut off my nose to spite my face.

A Thompson/Hunter ticket would be very appealing to conservatives, but I think a Thompson/Steele ticket would appeal to not only conservatives, but a much larger chunk of the electorate.

Thompson/Steele has balance in several ways: white/black, south/northeast, older/younger and Protestant/Catholic. And it sends a strong message that the party of Lincoln is in touch with both its roots and its future.

And, like I mentioned earlier, it would give the Dems fits. What are they gonna do, throw Oreos at a black candidate for the vice presidency? That stuff they got away with in Maryland just ain't gonn fly in a national election, especially if Obama is on their ticket!


191 posted on 03/04/2007 7:02:47 AM PST by Josh Painter (If you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you become a liberal.)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Romney / Thompson 2008!!


192 posted on 03/04/2007 7:26:34 AM PST by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

sevenbak wrote: "Romney / Thompson 2008!!"



Well, that certainly is a possibility, but not much of a probability, IMO. A Thompson candidacy would draw supporters away from mostly McCain and Romney.

On the critical issue of judges alone, Fred Thompson has Romney beat hands down. It was the "old country lawyer" Thompson who was hand picked to shepherd Justice Roberts through the the confirmation process. Fred knows the law, and as president, he would nominate some outstanding candidates for the federal bench. With Stevens and Bader Ginsberg hanging on to their bench seats despite ill health in an effort to serve past Dubya's last day in the White House, the next two supreme Court nominees could conceivably be his to make.

Mitt's biggest problem, IMO, is his flip-flopping on social issues. This will hurt him in the South. Thompson is a Southerner who has always been strong on second amendment issues,and his voting record on abortion and other social issues speaks for itself.

Thompson's greatest weakness, at least with conservatives, will be his stand on immigration issues. But he's so strong on the other issues that I don't think it will be a deal-breaker for him.

Thompson - Steele 2008!


193 posted on 03/04/2007 8:25:13 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The Clintons don't take a dump, son, without a plan.")
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To: Sturm Ruger

Right now Thompson is supporting McCain, but who knows...

If he thows his hat into the ring, it will be to get name recognitin. Time wil tell


194 posted on 03/04/2007 8:37:00 AM PST by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

AFAIK, Thompson hasn't officially endorsed McCain this time around, although he did endorse him in 2000 (after Lamar Alexander dropped out) and became his national co-chairman.

The two are good friends, and Thompson probably doesn't want to rain on Mcain's parade. However, with McCain slipping badly in the polls, that reason for staying out could fall by the wayside.


195 posted on 03/04/2007 9:36:49 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The Clintons don't take a dump, son, without a plan.")
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To: Richard Kimball

As someone else noted, he was too old for the draft, which didn't start until 1969, with men born in 1944 (he was born in 1942).

He could have volunteered, but there's no issue with him doing anything to avoid the draft. By the time they were drafting people, he was in his late 20s and serving his country as an prosecuter.


196 posted on 03/08/2007 12:34:30 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: backhoe

Fred isn't the perfect conservative, but he's exactly the kind of candidate we talk about when we say we shouldn't look for the perfect candidate and pass over the best we can get.

Fred could be a great compromise candidate, in a way Rudy never will be.

Rudy could be the Attorney General in a Thompson administration.

BTW, Thompson strikes me as someone who is not rigidly ideological, but has his own set of princples and lives by them. I don't agree with all his stands, especially his position on Campaign Finance Reform. He wasn't one of the vocal proponents of it, but he shouldn't have voted for it.

However, it's obvious he didn't vote for it to pander to people like McCain did, since he voted the year he was retiring from office.

I'd love to here him say it was a mistake, or that there were parts of the bill he didn't like that he'd push to repeal. But if none of the other conservatives can get out of single digits, I'd rather have Thompson enter the ring than be stuck with Rudy Guiliani.


197 posted on 03/08/2007 12:42:21 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sturm Ruger

That's a ticket -- Thompson/Steele.

I wouldn't mind seeing Steele throw his hat into the presidential ring for a while just to get vetted and bumped around some, so he would be a more credible VP pick. Lt. Governor and losing Senate candidate isn't a great platform to leap from, but a credible presidential candidacy would establish him as VP material.


198 posted on 03/08/2007 12:45:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Politicalmom

Well, he's doing well in the FR poll comparing him with Rudy.


199 posted on 03/08/2007 12:46:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Moonman62

Oh give me a freaking break. Washington? Jefferson? Madison? Lincoln? Reagan was a larger than life President, but he didn't begin to fill their shoes in terms of intellectual preparation or leadership.

The conservative wing of the GOP needs to get over this absurd cult-like adoration of Reagan which long ago dispensed with truth.


200 posted on 03/08/2007 12:47:02 PM PST by republicanwizard
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