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Some in MSM Cling to Hope GOP Won't Support Rudy
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| Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 03/02/2007 6:14:30 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
I seem to be detecting a trend. There's a current in the MSM that fears a Rudy Giuliani candidacy, perhaps sensing he might be best positioned to defeat the Dem candidate. They console themselves by clinging to the belief that the GOP won't nominate Rudy, or at least won't avidly support him if he is the candidate, given his liberal positions on some issues.
This evening's Hardball offered a perfect example of the phenomenon in the person of Craig Crawford. Time and again, the MSNBC analyst returned to the theme:
View video here.
- "Getting onto the social conservative stuff: abortion, gay rights, etc., [Rudy at CPAC] did make the case that I'm 80% with you, better than most marriages, a pretty good line, but at the end of the day, they're important issues to these people, and I just really wonder, the more they learn about him, and just how liberal he really is on those issues, I think it's going to matter to them."
"Maybe I've just covered these social conservatives and these Republican races for too long to believe they're suddenly going to forget about that stuff, no matter how much they like Giuliani otherwise."- "I think if Giuliani wins this nomination, and he well could, social conservative voters are not going to play in the general election, and that's going to help Democrats."
- "I really do believe a lot of these [socially conservative] voters and a lot of these groups are losing interest in politics."
- "I don't think they've heard all the details of his personal life, and the judges [the liberal ones in NYC Rudy appointed] we're talking about."
Jim Vandehei, ex of WaPo, now with Politico.com, was dubious of Crawford's notion: "I think that the conventional wisdom must be wrong, this idea that once conservatives get to know Giuliani's record. I mean, how can they not know his record? Everybody's talking about it."
Chris Matthews, flatly rejecting Crawford's theory, adopted a real-politik analysis:
- "Are [abortion, gay rights] relevant issues?"
- "Hasn't [Rudy] kow-towed a bit by saying I'll pick strict-constructionist judges?"
- "You really think they're going to put Huckabee up there against Hillary Clinton or Obama and risk getting beat?"
- "I couldn't disagree with you [Crawford] more. When [conservatives] get a look at the Democratic nominee, they're going to vote like they've never voted in their lives."
- "American voters don't vote 'for,' they vote 'against.' And when they see Hillary or Obama coming, a lot of these Republicans are going to say, 'God, that Rudy is pretty cool, I like him."
- "Sometimes I wish I was in the gambling business. I could stop talking to guys like you [Craig] and put some money on the table, and I'd get rich. Wait a year from now."
Be that as it may, whether the MSM is finding reasons to hope Republicans won't nominate Rudy, or betting they will, it does seem clear that the liberal media view him as the most formidable candidate.
Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chrismatthews; conservatives; craigcrawford; electionpresident; giuliani; rudy; rudygiuliani
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To: OKIEDOC
Straight Republican Ticket!
To: CindyDawg
Bingo. You win the prize.
162
posted on
03/09/2007 8:05:59 PM PST
by
Luke21
To: OKIEDOC
I toned it down because I was on the internet.
As to not caring to see this country preserved, if it doesn't retain its fundamental cultural/moral identity, I absolutely mean it. An America where babykilling and sodomy are finally, permanently accepted parts of the culture, where honest citizens are disarmed, where vast hordes of culturally hostile aliens are given "citizenship" with no responsibility (and use the ballot to plunder the productive class), is not a country that deserves to survive. In fact, it's not recognizably America, at least not the America I was raised to believe in and fight for.
But hey, as a lifelong Southern Californian, I practically live in Mexico already, thanks to the First Traitor and his open border policy....
163
posted on
03/12/2007 11:31:49 PM PDT
by
Rytwyng
(Mr. Bushbachov, close down this border!!!!!!)
To: Rytwyng
Hey, I don't disagree with you on most of what you say except the part about America not surviving.
I have been a strong supporter of President Bush but lately he sounds more like a wimp than a leader of a super power.
Someone has to stand up and lead by example and lately President Bush has done little to earn a following.
Allowing the throwing open of the borders will be my last straw should that happen.
164
posted on
03/13/2007 5:58:30 PM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
To: OKIEDOC
Hey, I don't disagree with you on most of what you say except the part about America not surviving. Okay, consider it this way: suppose the liberals absolutely got their way on everything, permanently. I mean not just passing laws and enacting social policy (eg, stamping out un-pc speech, outlawing religion and guns, etc), but actually changing the minds of most of the population and brutaly, violently repressing the few holdouts. In short, imagine that we became the new Soviet Union.
A society that becomes democratic in ethos as well as in constitution is doomed. And not much loss either. - C. S. Lewis
165
posted on
03/18/2007 12:41:21 PM PDT
by
Rytwyng
(Mr. Bushbachov, close down this border!!!!!!)
To: Rytwyng
Some might argue that we are well on our way to becoming just as you say the new Soviet Union.
Living in Kalifornia certainly makes a person feel like they are fenced in by frivolous constraints.
166
posted on
03/18/2007 1:50:25 PM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
To: Rytwyng
Some might argue that we are well on our way to becoming just as you say the new Soviet Union.
Living in Kalifornia certainly makes a person feel like they are fenced in by frivolous constraints.
167
posted on
03/18/2007 1:50:29 PM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
To: CindyDawg
"They want us to think they don't want him, so we will want him, because he is really who they want."
That is what I believe too. The MSM is just waiting to put out all their bad press abour either Rudy or McCain if either one wins the nomination! A Rudy or McCain win of the Republican nomination would ensure that the Clinton/Abama or Abama/Clinton ticket wins the White House!
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