[Sunsong]

I was speaking more as a general principle, not necessarily about some of the freakier posters on FR (and other forums). I think you're right about the kookiest 2%+ of that mindset, but most of them aren't notably harmful. I think they think they want is for the best. They're just lacking in an appreciation of human nature. In fact, they are just wrong.

I'm just talking about the ones who are posting now. If they are the kookiest 2% - then we are on the same wavelength. I know there are ideologues here who are nice people. I am talking about the haters and the ragers - those who stalk Rudy threads in order to attack and spew their venom. They are the ones who are alientating good and decent, kind and intelligent people from ever considering conservatism.

[HitmanLV]

I agree. I have been prompted to ask just what is particularly conservative about a particular topic and position I find on a FR thread. Evolution is one. Divorce law is another. This comes up on sex & relationship threads, too.

I think basically we're on the same page here. Great posts!

[RabidBartender]

The same could be said for the supporters of Mayor Giuliani that have posted vicious, shrill messages calling anyone who disagrees with their candidate names.

Look at the last 3 pages of this thread - even if someone questions the Mayor's positions on gun control, abortion, or McCain-Feingold, they get shouted down and called names.

One poster spits on those who think abortion is an important issue. Another one appears to hate those who put their religious faith above their political party and even gloats about it.

I think the supporters of Mayor Giuliani have been far more hateful and angry than those who question his positions and level of conservativeness (with the exception of MadIvan, who does post thoughtfully and argues facts, not emotions).