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Bishop on Pelosi: It's Categorically Impossible to be Catholic & Hold Abortion is Just a Choice
LifeSite ^ | March 1, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:53:43 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 03/02/2007 5:53:48 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/02/2007 5:54:27 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Sounds like a condition of membership. As used to be commonly said (but no more), hey!, it's a free country! Nancy is free to associate with a church that doesn't place that condition on membership. And the church is free to accept or decline membership as it pleases as well. Or have we come to the point where there is no longer any such thing as voluntary association?


3 posted on 03/02/2007 6:04:00 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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The bishop, bless him, makes a superb point here.

But Ms. Pelosi is a priestess of the Church of Liberalism, and that faith holds that anything is Oh-Kee-Doh-Kee. Period.


4 posted on 03/02/2007 6:05:34 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: NYer

A Catholic who is pro-abortion is like a Red Sox' fan who roots for the Yankees. Even when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox.


5 posted on 03/02/2007 6:06:25 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: NYer

Good for the Archbishop, but how long till charges are filed? I am only half kidding.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 6:10:46 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NYer

Ah, yes! The church that should be loyal to its heretics...

My, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree... Perhaps in this case, a Durian fruit would be an appropriate anaolgy.

And if you don't know what it is, do a quick internet search... ;)


7 posted on 03/02/2007 6:10:59 AM PST by CheyennePress
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Pelosi is a heretic, Monsignor...
So, do you have the backbone to
excommunicate her?


8 posted on 03/02/2007 6:11:42 AM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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Uh, hasn't Kerry and Teddy been getting away with the same thing?


9 posted on 03/02/2007 6:13:08 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: CheyennePress

"even though the Church has not been that faithful to her because of her politics."

So....the Church has to accommodate her beliefs, she doesn't have to accommodate the Church beliefs? What does Catholic mean then? Can one call themself a Catholic and believe as a Baptist? Jewish? muslim?
The Church is what it is. It need not be "faithful" to her beliefs or politics.

and no, i'm not a Catholic.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 6:17:43 AM PST by Shimmer128
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To: theBuckwheat

"Sounds like a condition of membership."

You are close, but I think the concept of "membership" is wrong.

Being a member of something implies a choice, true, but it does not convey the sacrosanct beliefs implicit in religion.

Not to be nitpicky ( -; I think adherent or follower would be a better description. If Pelosi and daughter adhered or followed Catholicism, they could not make statements opposed to the tenets and remain followers.


11 posted on 03/02/2007 6:18:15 AM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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So, do you have the backbone to excommunicate her?

She is excommuncated 'latae sententiae'.

12 posted on 03/02/2007 6:29:55 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Nancy Pelosi stated in a highly publicized interview with Newsweek in October last year. "To me it isn't even a question. God has given us a free will. We're all responsible for our actions. If you don't want an abortion, you don't believe in it, [then] don't have one. But don't tell somebody else what they can do in terms of honoring their responsibilities."

Stated purely for political reasons. She's not thinking of her faith she is thinking of VOTES! Apparently her Catholic faith is not something she thinks about very deeply. Go figure!

13 posted on 03/02/2007 6:40:25 AM PST by micho
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One of the few really good bishops left in America.

Too bad he's not HER bishop. That would be Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco, who wouldn't dream of saying anything to upset Ms. Pelosi.
14 posted on 03/02/2007 6:42:17 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: RexBeach
But Ms. Pelosi is a priestess of the Church of Liberalism, and that faith holds that anything is Oh-Kee-Doh-Kee. Period.

Not really, I don't think priestess Nancy believes that the woman who has the right to choose to kill her baby, has the right to choose to carry a gun to defend herself.

15 posted on 03/02/2007 6:42:57 AM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

"A Catholic who is pro-abortion is like a Red Sox' fan who roots for the Yankees. Even when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox"


OOoooh! I like that!
Mind if I steal it and pass it on?


16 posted on 03/02/2007 6:43:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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*APPLAUSE* Should be repeated loudly and often. Hypocrites!


17 posted on 03/02/2007 6:44:47 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: c-b 1

"Not really, I don't think priestess Nancy believes that the woman who has the right to choose to kill her baby, has the right to choose to carry a gun to defend herself."

I hadn't considered that particular hypocricy before.
Excellent point!

women must "defend" themselves from these little babies/burdens, but should not be able to take out a would be rapist.


18 posted on 03/02/2007 6:45:26 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
OOoooh! I like that! Mind if I steal it and pass it on?

Sure. Just send a dollar to my PayPal account every time you use it. :)

19 posted on 03/02/2007 6:51:35 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Deo volente

Niederauer should be excommunicated too.


20 posted on 03/02/2007 6:54:22 AM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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