1 posted on
03/02/2007 5:53:48 AM PST by
NYer
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2 posted on
03/02/2007 5:54:27 AM PST by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
Sounds like a condition of membership. As used to be commonly said (but no more), hey!, it's a free country! Nancy is free to associate with a church that doesn't place that condition on membership. And the church is free to accept or decline membership as it pleases as well. Or have we come to the point where there is no longer any such thing as voluntary association?
To: NYer
The bishop, bless him, makes a superb point here.
But Ms. Pelosi is a priestess of the Church of Liberalism, and that faith holds that anything is Oh-Kee-Doh-Kee. Period.
4 posted on
03/02/2007 6:05:34 AM PST by
RexBeach
To: NYer
A Catholic who is pro-abortion is like a Red Sox' fan who roots for the Yankees. Even when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox.
5 posted on
03/02/2007 6:06:25 AM PST by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
To: NYer
Good for the Archbishop, but how long till charges are filed? I am only half kidding.
6 posted on
03/02/2007 6:10:46 AM PST by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: NYer
Ah, yes! The church that should be loyal to its heretics...
My, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree... Perhaps in this case, a Durian fruit would be an appropriate anaolgy.
And if you don't know what it is, do a quick internet search... ;)
To: NYer
Pelosi is a heretic, Monsignor...
So, do you have the backbone to
excommunicate her?
8 posted on
03/02/2007 6:11:42 AM PST by
NickatNite2003
(From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
To: NYer
Uh, hasn't Kerry and Teddy been getting away with the same thing?
9 posted on
03/02/2007 6:13:08 AM PST by
AZRepublican
("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
To: NYer
One of the few really good bishops left in America.
Too bad he's not HER bishop. That would be Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco, who wouldn't dream of saying anything to upset Ms. Pelosi.
To: NYer
*APPLAUSE* Should be repeated loudly and often. Hypocrites!
17 posted on
03/02/2007 6:44:47 AM PST by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: NYer
I am sixty miles from being in Bishop Vasa's diocese. There are times I wish I were!
23 posted on
03/02/2007 6:57:37 AM PST by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: NYer
Nancy Pelosi has several choices:
She can choose another Church.
She can choose to be a Catholic, adhere to the principles of the Church in her personal life as well as voice her acceptance of those principles publicall.
She can chose to be a Catholic and then be silent on those principles in public life. Adhering to them privately, and NOT advocating against them in public.
Instead she has chosen to advocate publicly against a basic principle of the church to which she claims membership, she is at war with the Church to which she claims membership. She can't be a member of this Church (which she has freely chosen) and be at war with it.
This bespeaks a basic lack of principles.
But, then, she's a liberal, so being at war with her own principles is fully understandable.
DUH
26 posted on
03/02/2007 7:11:52 AM PST by
Basheva
To: NYer
To: NYer
Although not referenced in Bishop Vasa's column, the younger Pelosi commented about her mother to the Chronicle saying: "My mother, throughout her entire life, has been faithful o the Church, even though the Church has not been that faithful to her because of her politics. And I think that takes a lot of perseverance. And still, people protest her right to go to her own church."*************
If Nancy Pelosi had an ounce of decency, she would weep at hearing these words.
33 posted on
03/02/2007 8:25:41 AM PST by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
"My mother, throughout her entire life, has been faithful to the Church, even though the Church has not been that faithful to her because of her politics. And I think that takes a lot of perseverance. And still, people protest her right to go to her own church." She's a victim, i.o.w.
Note the narcissistic, self-centered world view, here. It's not Pelosi's obligation to adhere to Church teaching. No, the Church is supposed to get behind Pelosi and support her.
About as clear an exposition as it is possible to get of the "religion as a feelgood personal experience" approach to theology. We are not miserable sinners in need of redemption through God's Mystical Body, the Church. Rather, it's the Church which is a miserable wretch, and it is enhanced only by the gracious presence of the likes of Ms. Pelosi and her family.
To: NYer
"It is categorically impossible for the same person to state that he or she believes simultaneously both what the Catholic Church teaches and that abortion is just a choice,"
Are Catholics willing to overlook this in regards to Rudy Guilianni? I've asked this question on many threads and received no replies.
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42 posted on
03/02/2007 5:52:14 PM PST by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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47 posted on
03/03/2007 5:49:50 AM PST by
cpforlife.org
(A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
To: NYer
frenchie, dick turban, joe biden-biden swimmer, ku ku et al take note. Rudy is in this category as well, but Rudy does not pretend to be a Catholic anymore.
48 posted on
03/03/2007 9:33:00 AM PST by
jmaroneps37
(google the "Verses of the Sword" to understand our Islamist enemies.)
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