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'Nuclear Winter' May Kill More Than A Nuclear War
'Nuclear Winter' May Kill More Than A Nuclear War ^ | 3-2-2007 | Debora MacKenzie

Posted on 03/01/2007 5:22:58 PM PST by blam

'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war

19:00 01 March 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Debora MacKenzie

A regional exchange of relatively small nuclear weapons could plunge the world into a decade-long "nuclear winter", destroying agriculture and killing millions, according to a new study.

Weapons experts to consider that small-scale nuclear exchanges are now more likely than the massive US-Soviet exchanges feared during the Cold War.

In the 1980s, scientists calculated that such exchanges would put enough smoke into the atmosphere to shade the Earth from the Sun, causing a nuclear winter.

Now scientists have re-calculated the likelihood of nuclear winter using modern, vastly improved climate models and a more likely modern scenario for small-scale nuclear war. Brian Toon, head of atmospheric and oceanic sciences at the University of Colorado at Boulder, and Alan Robock of Rutgers University in New Jersey, both in the US, predict less cooling than the 1980s modellers. However, they predict the cooling would last longer, with potentially devastating consequences.

Different targets

The pair modelled the impact of 100 explosions in subtropical megacities. They modelled 15-kilotonne explosions, like the Hiroshima bomb. This is also the size of the bombs now possessed by India and Pakistan, among others.

The immediate blast and radiation from the exchange of 100 small nuclear bombs killed between three million and 16 million people, depending on the targets. But the global effect of the resulting one-to-five million tonnes of smoke was much worse. “It is very surprising how few weapons are needed to do so much damage,” says Toon.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ajntsa; iceage; littleiceage; nuclear; nuclearwar; nuclearwinter; war; winter
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To: GSlob
Indeed. In fact, any current global warming could be claimed as just the preemptive cure that the "progressives" are seeking for glo-ball warming, but in this case we're curing nuclear winter preemptively. What could be more progressive than that?
61 posted on 03/01/2007 8:25:02 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: dfwgator

Good Lord, I haven't seen it in ages! Thanks!


62 posted on 03/01/2007 8:28:25 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
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To: blam
Great News! To end global warming, all we have to do is nuke 100 selected pest-holes. Let's start with Paris.
63 posted on 03/01/2007 8:35:28 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Rock The Casbah (said the little AC130 gunship))
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To: DuncanWaring

But we did have unusual el ninos continuing from 1991, 1992, 1993 and into 1994. Oh and don't forget andrew in 1992 as well. And we did have that record blizzard in 1991. Of course it could all be traced back to the oil wells.


64 posted on 03/01/2007 8:50:54 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

The ending totally freaked me out the first time I saw it. Much better done than "The Day After" IMHO.


65 posted on 03/01/2007 9:22:10 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: oyez

Appreciated.


66 posted on 03/01/2007 11:56:25 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
This isn't about global warming nor is it about climate models.

If sufficient amounts of dust is thrown into the air, and if that dust stays in the air for a considerable time, then less sunlight will reach the ground, and surface temperatures will decrease.

67 posted on 03/01/2007 11:59:27 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL! I remember that one, too. And the crying "Indian" who cried over me littering and polluting...who wasn't even an Indian to begin with! *Rolleyes*

I'm actually pleased to see so many rail against all the BS that has been shoved down my throat and in my face since I was a pre-teen.

Remember a young Laura Dern crying on Donahue that President Bush was going to cause a nuclear war? Yeesh!


68 posted on 03/02/2007 6:52:22 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Interesting,
I just noticed that they have the Statue of Liberty in Brooklyn facing west. Either that or they built a bunch of big buildings on Staten Island.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

69 posted on 03/02/2007 6:59:53 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

Hollywood doesn't know which end is up.

Remember the Statue of Liberty buried on the beach at the end of 'Planet of the Apes?' I've walked along that piece of shoreline dozens of time.

The first time I saw that movie as a teen, I asked my Dad "How did the Statue of Liberty make it from Staten Island to a beach in CA?" LOL!


70 posted on 03/02/2007 7:02:53 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: blam
Its too funny - the Left can't decide which danger to get hysterical about - global warming or global cooling. Its totally bogus.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

71 posted on 03/02/2007 7:05:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: blam

Didn't this "study" come out like 3 months ago or am I having Deja Vu all over again?


72 posted on 03/02/2007 7:07:26 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: goldstategop
Warming, cooling, they don't care which it is as long as it gets them back in power so they can then ignore it.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

73 posted on 03/02/2007 7:08:04 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Malsua
Remember Carl Sagan and the Kuwaiti oil wells burning? "It could be the worst ecological disaster man has ever known".

Jonathan Adler March 2003
The oil-well fires billowed smoke for months, spreading soot, oil mists, and deposition for hundreds of miles in all directions, contaminating air, water, and soil. (For those concerned about global warming, the fires released nearly 500 million tons of carbon dioxide, an amount greater than the industrial emissions of all but a handful of nations in 1991.)

74 posted on 03/02/2007 7:17:46 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Chode

You Maniacs!

Loved that scene. LOL


75 posted on 06/11/2007 6:04:09 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: blam

How many nukes were exploded above ground in the 40’s and 50’s?

No nuclear winter from those.


76 posted on 06/11/2007 6:07:35 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: blam

At least it would put an end to global warming.


77 posted on 12/14/2008 2:25:30 PM PST by dbz77
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To: Malsua
Remember Carl Sagan and the Kuwaiti oil wells burning?
Yes, it was a mistake he admitted.

Not even great scientific minds are immune from pressing the wrong key on a calculator.
78 posted on 12/14/2008 2:27:25 PM PST by dbz77
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