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Warming a cold fact? (Voice of Reason)
The Washington Times ^ | February 27, 2007 | Richard W. Rahn

Posted on 02/27/2007 9:32:25 AM PST by jazusamo

Do you think those who have reservations about whether man is creating global warming should lose their jobs and be denied the right to present their views?

Over the last few months, there has been a concerted effort to silence those who have doubts about global warming and man's effect on the climate. The Oregon State climatologist was fired for disagreeing with the "conventional wisdom." A meteorologist with the weather channel demanded that dissenting views not be broadcast. CNN, in particular, has treated skeptics with great disdain.

As an economist, I do not claim to know for certain who is right and who is wrong in this debate, but I do know that attempts to shut down debate are both wrong and dangerous. When I was a student, Keynesian economics was the "consensus," and those few who disagreed, like Milton Friedman and F.A. Hayek, were ridiculed by the economic establishment, and students in many universities were not even exposed to their views. By the late 1970s, it was apparent to those who cared to look at the data and the world around them that Keynesian economics had all been wrong and Friedman and Hayek had been right. Once Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and other government leaders adopted the Friedman/Hayek model, their economies and also the world economy, entered the longest and highest rate of growth ever. History is filled with those who dissented against the conventional wisdom but were proved correct, such as Copernicus, Galileo, Albert Einstein and many others.

The doomsayers in the media and political classes were all atwitter last month when the most recent U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report was released, saying humans were partly to blame for global warming -- so I decided to read the report.

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1 posted on 02/27/2007 9:32:28 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: xcamel

Ping


2 posted on 02/27/2007 9:36:14 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
The Oregon State climatologist was fired

What? No he wasn't! He still has his job.

3 posted on 02/27/2007 9:37:43 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: jazusamo
The doomsayers in the media and political classes were all atwitter last month when the most recent U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report was released, saying humans were partly to blame for global warming -- so I decided to read the report.

This is not possible. It's disheartening to read BS from the "wrong" side.

The final full, scientific report won't be available for a few more months, while it is being tweaked (redacted) to agree with what is availabe, the political "Summary".

4 posted on 02/27/2007 9:38:41 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

I don't know who is being referred to.


5 posted on 02/27/2007 9:40:44 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Global warming is pure politics. It's got nothing to do with science. The same kind of parasites that live to suck off the teats of the UN are sucking off the taxpayers. What needs to be done is to start exposing the charlatans for what they are. Because they lack rigorous scientific skills, their earlier research and predictions should be full of obvious lies and erroneous predictions that can prove their scam nature.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 9:40:49 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

It's become a religion, with its Goracle and hordes of deluded and demented earth worshipping gorons..


7 posted on 02/27/2007 9:46:52 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: jazusamo

All of science, whether it is climatology or biology, benefit from open debate. Those who claim their discipline is settled, and would stifle further debate, are not doing themselves, nor humanity, any favors. The very nature of the scientific endeavor is exploration - the search for truth. And when one party to the debate seeks to silence the other, science, and humanity, are the losers.


8 posted on 02/27/2007 9:48:54 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Publius6961

True ... the full, final report is not available to us peons.

However, there are early drafts available even to us, and I suspect that there are more mature drafts available to those who are well connected.

The whole article is well worth reading, by the way.

Here's another nice excerpt:

"... if the politicians on the left operate true to course, they will propose even more costly regulations and higher taxes, without any offsetting tax reduction. This will unnecessarily make the poor poorer and reduce job creation. The brains of many on the left (and some on the right) seem unable to understand second-order effects of policies and actions, which tends to make them overstate problems and come up with solutions that do more harm than good.

"Vaclav Klaus, who is both a distinguished economist and president of the Czech Republic, criticized the new U.N. report on global warming, saying it was a political document, "without scientific basis." He also said, "a sane person can't conclude that we are ruining the planet" as Al Gore has said, given that the planet is now far more user friendly for humans than it has ever been in the past."


9 posted on 02/27/2007 9:49:49 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Global warming is pure politics.

Today's Y2K. It's good for the economy, good for investments in new and improved technologies, and no one really gets hurt.

10 posted on 02/27/2007 9:50:24 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

The climatologist in question wasn't the State of Oregon's climatologist. He was the climatologist of Oregon State...as in...the college/university. He lost his title of "climatologist of Oregon State" but still gets to teach AT Oregon State and still teaches climatology there.

Go figure....


11 posted on 02/27/2007 9:51:09 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

"Because they lack rigorous scientific skills, their earlier research and predictions should be full of obvious lies and erroneous predictions that can prove their scam nature."

Your analysis is 100% correct. These fools are woefully ignorant of physics and chemistry both proven sciences which when properly applied disprove their slipshod theories.


12 posted on 02/27/2007 9:51:16 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: AFPhys; Publius6961

Yes, the way I read it he stated he read the most recent report, not the full report.


13 posted on 02/27/2007 9:54:12 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Personally I'm still going with the Global Cooling theory, maybe in August I'll switch over to Global Warming. Actually we should probably institute a law that mandates when you switch, kinda like when we switch to and from Daylight Savings time.


14 posted on 02/27/2007 9:55:17 AM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: ladtx

I believe you have the most realistic approach. lol


15 posted on 02/27/2007 9:57:29 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


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16 posted on 02/27/2007 9:59:44 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: AFPhys
True ... the full, final report is not available to us peons.
However, there are early drafts available even to us, and I suspect that there are more mature drafts available to those who are well connected.

My point is, what started out as a scientific panel on Climate change (IPCC) has degenerated into a political panel whose only goal is to "back up" a conclusion already assumed to be correct. That nasty science keeps getting in the way.

They should just change the name to IPACC (International Panel on Anthropogenic Climate Change) and be done with it.

17 posted on 02/27/2007 10:06:49 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I read this (barf alert) on Drudge this morning.

Maybe I'm preaching to the choir here but...

It's sickening to see the left-wingers (here and in the third-world) crying about how the United States is supposedly creating another "holocaust" in the developing nations. Then they quickly switch over to say that the United States owes a "carbon debt" to the third world (no mention of the EU or any other industrialized nations) of about $13 Trillion annually. Wonderful. Just above the official figures of our GDP. How coincidental. Plus, as always, Bush is supposedly to blame for global warming, too.

It's the height of arrogance to say that we can change climate and totally ignore the much larger influence from the Earth, the Sun, etc. It's arrogant to conclude that this theory is unchangeable fact, based on a single movie, and to silence doubters. This is not scientific; this is a religious Inquisition. And, it's morally repugnant to dishonor the memory of the victims of the Nazi Holocaust in order to advance their left-wing agenda.

This is naught but a thinly-veiled ploy by extreme Earth-worshiping environmentalists who want to see humans (well, other than themselves) dead in the name of creating more "open space" and socialists who want to enslave the United States and her citizens for their own evil purposes.

The truly sad thing is that many Americans will fall for this trite bovine excrement.

18 posted on 02/27/2007 10:08:50 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08 * Duncan Hunter for President in '08)
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To: jazusamo
Yes, the way I read it he stated he read the most recent report, not the full report.

LOL!
Is it any wonder that Joe and Jane Sixpack are thoroughly confused and clueless?

But they gets to vote. And they are easily scared.

19 posted on 02/27/2007 10:10:43 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Then they quickly switch over to say that the United States owes a "carbon debt" to the third world (no mention of the EU or any other industrialized nations) of about $13 Trillion annually. Wonderful. Just above the official figures of our GDP. How coincidental.

The only good news is that no one seems to know who the "carbon debt" czar is, who appointed him, what powers does he have and how many tank and missile divisions are there backing him up...

If the most primitive and useless countries in the world get together and vote on something, does that make it inevitable? Enforceable?

Give me a break.

We don't yet have a world government (we never will) and it is never likely to be a "democratic" mobocracy.

20 posted on 02/27/2007 10:16:52 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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