Posted on 02/26/2007 8:41:03 AM PST by Clive
Why hypothesize that? All of the names in question were quite common in first-century Judea.
I want a few of those pins ... and a couple of bumper stickers ... and at least a dozen coffee mugs with that wisdom on them so I can get the proper perspective in the mornin'. Where do I go to purchase them?
1. Joseph was a poor carpenter. Could he have afforded a tomb like this?
2. If this is the tomb of the Holy Family, why is it in Jerusalem and not in Galilee? Certainly, Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem and placed in a tomb owned by Joseph of Aramitheia. Even if his body were not raised and he was later placed in a "family tomb", why was his family placed there? As I understand Jewish burial customs, bodies are buried quickly, sometimes the same day. In those days, Nazareth was a long journey from Jerusalem. Transporting the body of a loved one for that distance could take several days and would be out of the question.
3. If most of the ossuaries were empty, how was enough DNA obtained to make an analysis and a match?
The fundamental issue is that Jesus was a Jew. That really irks Hollywood. Look for Cameron & Co to find some way to insert "...he was a palestinian..."
I'm paraphrasing here, but C.S. Lewis once said that if Jesus Christ were not in fact the risen Lord, then he was surely a crackpot.
In other words, it would be impossible, by His own words and deeds, to ever be construed as merely "a wise man". He must be taken as either the Savior or a nutcase--no safe middle ground.
Lewis talked about this in some depth in "Mere Christianity".
A friend of mine worked on "The Abyss." Everyone on the crew called it, "The Abuse."
I think the give-away is that they were found in the family tomb of BarKinko's,.....just look for the barKinko receipt...
Ahhh,...they're really going to be surprised when they discover He is much more present tense than past tense.
I hope they find out before the first death. Finding Him is much simpler than they are making it out to be....
LOL!
That movie sucked, too.
Jesus had to be buried before sundown. The rest of His family would have been buried elsewhere.
Silly.
1) It's just taken as a given in this piece that Jesus had a little brother, Jose -- never heard of this before.
2) It seems unlikely that any tomb of THAT Jesus would have been labeled -- the apostles would have been trying to COVER UP their lies about the resurrection if Jesus were in fact rotting somewhere, don't you think?
Isn't it more likely that even if we're dealing with the same Mary, James, etc, we are not dealing with the same Jesus?
cookcounty wrote: "Discovery, the National Geographic and others constantly speak in the name of "science" and the "scientific community" with no apparent objection from the scientists themselves."
These networks and shows are very careful to use terms like, "might be" or "possibly was" when they state their positions.
I'm reminded of a show on the History Channel about flight. They theorized the ancient Egyptians might have known about the principles of flight. Apparently someone found a bird-shaped toy in one tomb. The show proved it was flyable by making "minor" alterations, such as adding control surfaces and a rudder. The show was very careful to say, "the Egyptians MIGHT have known about flight." Well, duh.
These shows explore possibilities but ignore the most obvious explanations. Occam's Razor: the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible. In the case of the Egyptian toy, the most obvious explanation is it's a toy bird, made to look similar to real birds.
In the case of this tomb show, I detect a bit more enthusiasm than typical. I suspect Cameron and other nonbelievers are overjoyed to explore remote possibilities, especially when bashing Christian beliefs.
Shirley, you jest.
I have watched a lot of forums today - Freepers, RaptureReady, ChristianForum.com et el.....and nowhere am I seeing anyone saying they are going to call or write or even email a protest to the Discovery Channel....am I the only one?
Cameron can spend his own, or his investors' money and make a documentary about anything he wants. It doesn't make it true, and if someone is a strong Christian, the contentions in the film won't change any beliefs.
What a load.
Since he was buried in another tomb for the brief period he was dead, perhaps the Garden Tomb in Jerusalem, this was definitely not his tomb.
They would not have been buried in Jerusalem anyway.
These names were very common during that time, and the idea that the odds are 600 to 1 or 30,000 to one is nonsense. No doubt many, many families had relatives with all the names in question.
Hope Cameron is getting a sinking feeling.
Great point.
If this was scientific, they would have proven that this was the correct Jesus.
Showing a genetic link between the bones is only going part of the way.
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