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No Excuses ("Peace Activist" wants soldiers tried for war crimes.)
Sacramento News and Review ^ | 2/22/07 | Stephen Pearcy

Posted on 02/23/2007 12:29:56 PM PST by republicofdavis

By Stephen S. Pearcy

Stephen S. Pearcy is a Sacramento attorney and peace activist.

In addition to holding President George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress accountable for the illegal occupation of Iraq, American troops must also be prepared to accept responsibility. We’re all presumed to know the law. If we accept that fundamental legal presumption, then those of us who claim that the war is illegal must also acknowledge that the troops are unexcused aiders and abettors.

Lt. Ehren Watada’s case is a good example. Watada’s position is that he has a duty to refuse orders to deploy to Iraq because those orders effectively command him to pursue an illegal war. Watada correctly understands that obeying those orders could subject him to war-crime charges under a more just administration (which should try George W. Bush first).

Publicly available information about the Iraq invasion has become so plentiful over the last several years that reasonable people contemplating service in the U.S. military should know that people throughout the world regard participation in the occupation as tantamount to aiding and abetting in mass murder, fraud, human-rights violations, and international war crimes. By now, all of the troops should recognize this, and ignorance is no excuse.

The frequency of U.S.-sponsored war crimes in Iraq is such that it has become the norm rather than the exception. U.S. troops have intentionally and recklessly caused the deaths of so many Iraqi civilians, and continue to do so, that we can now properly regard acts in furtherance of the occupation effort generally to be acts substantially likely to facilitate crimes such as those that already have occurred.

From a legal standpoint, obeying Bush’s orders is akin to the Nazi soldiers who obeyed Hitler’s orders. And we know from the Nuremberg Trials that the “just following orders” excuse is invalid. Watada’s case suggests that we should question all troops’ willingness to follow their illegal orders.

Suggesting troop-responsibility for the illegal war is unpopular, but it also would have been unpopular during World War II for a German citizen to suggest that Nazi troops be held accountable for obeying their illegal orders. At the end of the day, it’s really no different.


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To: republicofdavis
People should never hire this lawyer. He can't even get definitions right.

The USA is not "occupying" Iraq. The USA is there by invitation only.

He looses his discovery argument on that fact alone, and would never convince a panel to hold the case over to trial.

If John Kerry insists any vets from Nam are 'war criminals', then his sworn statement alone should buy him life in prison for illegal actions he himself admits to committing.

I'm so sick and tired of these stupid things being posted.

21 posted on 02/23/2007 12:41:14 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: republicofdavis
Stephen S. Pearcy is a Sacramento attorney and peace activist

as well as a full time loon.

22 posted on 02/23/2007 12:42:12 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: Joe 6-pack

"He should be tried for treason."

I agree


23 posted on 02/23/2007 12:42:41 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: BerniesFriend

"as well as a full time loon."

His wife Virginia is a real piece of excrem . . . I mean work too.


24 posted on 02/23/2007 12:43:39 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: republicofdavis
Sorry human being. Pearcy please take 50 steps backwards and and lift and hold this target silhouette in front of you.
25 posted on 02/23/2007 12:44:40 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I must see that comment made about 20 times a day on FR. People rarely are tried for that in this country any longer unless it has done harm to national security. This scumbag will just use the free speech mantra and not a single thing will ever be done about it.

Period.


26 posted on 02/23/2007 12:46:11 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Liberals : So open-minded....their brains have all fallen out)
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To: republicofdavis
"Stephen S. Pearcy is a Sacramento attorney and peace activist. In addition to holding President George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress accountable for the illegal occupation of Iraq, American troops must also be prepared to accept responsibility. We’re all presumed to know the law."

Hey, Stevie. Ever heard of the laws concerning treason and sedition?

27 posted on 02/23/2007 12:47:19 PM PST by Thom Pain (8/14/2006 Israel made a HUGH mistake! On Nov 7th we did worse!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Yeah, he hangs a soldier in effigy and it's called 'free speech.' A guy hung a terrorist in effigy in Marin County and it was called 'hate speech.'


28 posted on 02/23/2007 12:48:45 PM PST by stratman1969 (CLINTON LIED - 3,000+ DIED)
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To: republicofdavis
Watada correctly understands that obeying those orders could subject him to war-crime charges under a more just administration (which should try George W. Bush first).

Now that my initial reaction to this pile of dog squeeze has been expressed, how about this? Who exactly does he think this hypothetical "more just administration" is going to get to arrest us for war crimes?

It's important to note that I DO NOT THINK THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, even under a new Clinton administration, but.... If it did, don't expect us to go down without a fight, and I don't mean in court.
29 posted on 02/23/2007 12:52:09 PM PST by The Pack Knight (If the election was held today, I'd be very surprised.)
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To: lormand
"...self censoring myself as to what should happen to this guy"

You never know, someone living in that area might get pushed over the edge by this idiotic leftist loons' rantings and deliver some justice of his/her own for the good of his/her country.

We shave seen recently a leftist lunatic breaking into a person's house and assaulting a family he considered 'pro-war'. The same could happen in reverse.

30 posted on 02/23/2007 12:52:44 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: My Favorite Headache
"I must see that comment made about 20 times a day on FR. People rarely are tried for that in this country any longer unless it has done harm to national security."

Just because a crime is not prosecuted does not mean it hasn't been committed. I know it's a quaint, antiquated notion, kind of like patriotism, but there are still some of us who tend to view such things seriously. I really don't care how many times a day you see it on FR...if there are 20 people calling it like they see it, I can only hope our numbers grow.

31 posted on 02/23/2007 12:54:19 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: LtdGovt

Unfortunately, some foriegn jurisdiction will nab a soldier
or group of soldiers on a stopover on their way home from Iraq and charge them with international war crimes.

Warrants are slready supposedly issued for CIA operatives
in Italy over transporting enemy combatants.

Given the hatred of the US, I would not be shocked to see
Bush or Cheney served with papers if they venture overseas.


32 posted on 02/23/2007 12:54:58 PM PST by buckalfa
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To: My Favorite Headache
Well....bring a few 100 military vets and families together and bring a civil suit against this guy and those just like him...the dems and all their hollywood cronies, etc. These thugs incite violence and give away intelligence while our young men and women are in the field aiding in many of their deaths and so much destruction...that is cause enough to hit these fools right where it hurts, in the pocketbooks.
33 posted on 02/23/2007 12:56:51 PM PST by zimfam007
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To: buckalfa
Unfortunately, some foriegn jurisdiction will nab a soldier or group of soldiers on a stopover on their way home from Iraq and charge them with international war crimes.

Then it'd be time for war. Pure and simple.
34 posted on 02/23/2007 12:57:23 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country... What more needs to be said?)
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To: republicofdavis

Go ahead and try it punk. I know off hand about quite a few soldiers and Marines that would beg to differ.


35 posted on 02/23/2007 12:58:31 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: My Favorite Headache
"People rarely are tried for that in this country any longer unless it has done harm to national security."

Well, Democrats have been causing great harm to this nation and national security, as well as putting the lives of our servicemen in greater, prolonged danger because of their actions, and STILL we do not see any of them tried for their actions.

A large part of the reason why that is, is because those with the power to take such action, are are to spineless to do so

36 posted on 02/23/2007 1:00:32 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: dighton
Get this man a straitjacket.

Better yet, get him one of those Checkers Rap Cat paper sacks.

37 posted on 02/23/2007 1:02:37 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: 6SJ7

I think Hornady makes a better, more just solution for this persons action


38 posted on 02/23/2007 1:15:31 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: republicofdavis

I remember this jerk. Don't he and his equally despicable wife have as their permanent houseguest Countess Cindy of Sheehag?

Their neighbors in Sacramento, I believe, have threatened them if they do that display again, so now they're in Berkeley. Wife works for a pretty big law firm, if I recall, but I can't see them putting up with this. Corporate clients have a way of NOT wanting to be associated with a law firm that allows people like that on the payroll.


39 posted on 02/23/2007 1:18:41 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (I wouldn't believe liberals if their tongues came notarized!)
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To: republicofdavis
From a legal standpoint, obeying Bush’s orders is akin to the Nazi soldiers who obeyed Hitler’s orders.

My old favorite, the Reductio ad Hitlerum. Intellectual laziness at its worst.

40 posted on 02/23/2007 1:20:39 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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