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Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
http://www.ynetnews.com ^ | 2/23/07 | Ariella Ringel-Hoffman

Posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0

The cave in which Jesus Christ was buried has been found in Jerusalem, claim the makers of a new documentary film.

If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history.

The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene will be displayed for the first time on Monday in New York.

Jointly produced by Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and Oscar winning director James Cameron, the film tells the exciting and tortuous story of the archaeological discovery.

The story starts in 1980 in Jerusalem’s Talpiyot neighborhood, with the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave containing ten coffins. Six of the ten coffins were carved with inscriptions reading the names: Jesua son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Matthew, Jofa (Joseph, identified as Jesus’ brother), Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).

Decades of research

The findings in the cave, including the decipherment of the inscriptions, were first revealed about ten years ago by internationally renowned Israeli archeologist Professor Amos Kloner.

Since their discovery, the caskets were kept in the Israeli Antiquities Authority archive in Beit Shemesh, but now two have been sent to New York for their first public exhibition.

Although the cave was discovered nearly 30 years ago and the casket inscriptions decoded ten years ago, the filmmakers are the first to establish that the cave was in fact the burial site of Jesus and his family.

The film, which documents the stages of the discovery, is the result of three years labor and research. It will be broadcast on the international Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada’s Vision and Israel’s Channel 8, which also took part in the film's production.

According to the filmmakers, the film’s claim is based on close work with world-famous scientists, archeologists, statisticians, DNA specialists and antiquities experts.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; gospelofjesuswife; hewasarabbi; jamescameron; jamesossuary; jerusalem; jesus; jesustomb; karenking; letshavejerusalem; losttombofjesus; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; rabbismarry; sectarianturmoil; simchajacobovici; talpiot; talpiottomb; weddingatcana
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To: Coyoteman

LOL


261 posted on 02/24/2007 3:46:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Swordmaker
...Putrecine and Cadaverine...

"By now he stinketh!"

262 posted on 02/24/2007 3:48:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Danette
Mary never had other children.

Do you get this information from the Bible?

263 posted on 02/24/2007 3:55:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Thats the reason they wanted a roman guard at the tomb.

Those guys were pretty worthless; eh?

264 posted on 02/24/2007 3:56:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: donmeaker

Jesus is no myth. Even from a secular point of view. There are extra-biblical writings about a man named Jesus stirring things up with the local Jewish leaders and ultimately crucified. If I recall correctly it was Pliny the Elder (though there are other accounts).


265 posted on 02/24/2007 4:18:29 AM PST by brewer1516
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Yea, right and we have some ocean front property in West Virginia for sale cheap.


266 posted on 02/24/2007 6:36:03 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: brewer1516
Josephus, Tacitus, and I think Suetonius, as well as Pliny the Younger. His uncle was Pliny the Elder, who died at the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 A.D.
267 posted on 02/24/2007 6:59:16 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NoBullZone

But there would have been no burial after the Resurrection, because Jesus ascended directly into heaven.


268 posted on 02/24/2007 7:04:18 AM PST by billakay
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To: Swordmaker
The burden of proof never changes. What you're talking about is the shifting burden of persuasion . . . i.e. one side presents a prima facie case and the other then must bring forward evidence to counter. The give-and-take or the tennis match of litigation.

This doesn't bother me, because I'm in the legal system, and that's how the legal system works. Each side of a controversy gives it their best shot (including attacking the methods, motivations, biases, and intentions -- if not the personal appearance and private proclivities -- of the other side), and let the chips fall where they may.

The adversarial system is not a perfect system, and it makes for hurt feelings along the way, but it is the best system that has ever been tried. The alternative is something like the French courts, where instead of being adversarial the lawyers are theoretically embarked on a "search for truth". What that means in practice is that everybody THINKS they know the truth, and they don't dig deep. Sometimes it turns out they're wrong, as in the case of poor Dreyfus.

I'm just temperamentally on the side of the skeptics, because in my line of work I have seen some very, very clever frauds. As a sentencing judge once said in my hearing, "If you boys would try as hard at honest work as you do at trying to cheat people, you'd be on easy street plus you wouldn't have to go where I'm about to send you . . . "

269 posted on 02/24/2007 7:11:12 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Elsie
Those guys were pretty worthless; eh?

Yep the roman guard didn't stand a chance against the Angel.

270 posted on 02/24/2007 7:58:53 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: brewer1516

Kind of like saying that the Mormon writings are no myth because there was a man named Smith at that time....


271 posted on 02/24/2007 9:58:53 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

ok...so who's tomb is it in Jerusalem right now where prayers are being offered up in front of it 24/7?
How does that not qualify now?


272 posted on 02/24/2007 10:02:33 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: AnAmericanMother

Actually, far better than the adversarial system is the market place.

Anyone who wants to believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or her many brothers or sisters are free to so act. Anyone who doesn't want to believe in Zeus-Pater, Jupiter, Yahweh, Jehovah, or his Wife the Holy Sprit, his Son the Magic Mushroom, Allah, Muhummed, Ali, or the 12th Iman or what ever are free to not believe.

That latter is called freedom.

So long as the Government doesn't get involved in coercion, I have no argument with any believer (but reserve my right to snicker).


273 posted on 02/24/2007 10:05:40 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Vicomte13

Ok philosopher, any evidence?


274 posted on 02/24/2007 10:07:05 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Schicklegruber (aka Hitler) went to the museum where said lance was kept. He claimed to his friends that he handled it, and absorbed its energy.


275 posted on 02/24/2007 10:08:23 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: avital2

As I recollect, the "brother of Jesus" part was added in the 4th century as part of a flurry of fraudulence that was associated with the Official Government Acceptance of Christianity.


276 posted on 02/24/2007 10:11:06 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"A friend who believed the Da Vinci code said to me.."Just look at the Last Supper....it's a GIRl next to Jesus"!!! Like it was a PHOTOGRAPH!! I had to burst her baloon when I said it was a DRAWING done 1400 years later, he could have drawn them ALL as women if he wanted to!"

It's odd how seemingly smart people get sucked into that one.
Leonardo sketched that painting prior to painting it and labelled all the figures. The beardless one was labelled as John. He was depicted next to Jesus to portray the moment at the last supper when John was DESCRIBED as sitting next to Jesus.
He was beardless because tradition has John as a young teenager - so he is differentiated from the others in this way.

But none of these DaVinci folks want to let facts get in the way of their conspiracy theory.


277 posted on 02/24/2007 10:14:01 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: donmeaker
That depends entirely on whether you are believing something, or trying to prove something.

Two completely different questions.

278 posted on 02/24/2007 10:20:15 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Sans-Culotte

Actually, the Paul's writings can be read (I do not say, must be read) with the ressurection taking place out of time, rather like the beginning of John (In the Beginning was the Word,...).

Such was the time and place where Mithra had slain the great bull, and such was the time and place where Zeus killed Uranus, when his mother Rhea had given Uranus a stone in place of young Zeus to eat. Hardly uncommon for religious texts.

Later, the temporal setting for Jesus was established, by Luke at the time of a census, by Matthew in the time of Herod the Great. Mark and John are silent on the matter. If Mark was the first written, and the generally accepted date of 66 to 70 AD is used, the birth of Jesus would be far enough back that adults who could attest to it would be very rare, and adults who could have witnessed the ressurection would also be uncommon.


279 posted on 02/24/2007 10:20:47 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: donmeaker

Sure.
Go get your physics book and open it up.
There, you will see the speed of light in free space.
You'll also see the speed of light in air (slower).
And the speed of light in water (slower).
The speed of light in glass (slower).

The speed of light is different, depending on where you are, and where the light you're seeing is at.

There isn't any "free space" within miles and miles and miles of us.


280 posted on 02/24/2007 3:36:02 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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