A damned thin string to be hanging our fundamental human rights on.
Posted on 02/22/2007 7:09:41 AM PST by meg88
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani got good and bad news from the Quinnipiac Poll.
The good news: He beats Senator Hillary Clinton, 48% to her 43% in a national poll conducted last week.
The bad news: It's still over 18 months to go until Election 2008.
Quinnipiac drilled down to the red, blue and purple state level: Giuliani beats Clinton 55-38 in states that voted Republican in the 2004 election.
Interestingly, he ties her 46-46 in the blue states, while it's close in "purple states" (where the "margin in 2004 was less than 7%) - Giuliani has 44% while Clinton has 45%. Here are some more matchups:
- Senator John McCain edges Clinton, 46 - 44 percent
- Clinton tops former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 49 - 37 percent;
- Giuliani beats Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 47 - 40 percent;
- Giuliani tops 2004 vice presidential candidate John Edwards 48 - 40 percent;
- McCain ties Obama 43 - 43 percent;
- McCain gets 43 percent to Edward's 42 percent, a tie;
- Obama tops Romney 49 - 29 percent;
- Edwards beats Romney 48 - 32 percent.
Giuliani would win a Republican primary with 40% of Republican primary voters supporting him over McCain who would get just 18%, while Clinton would win a primary with 38% over Obama (23%). Furthermore, the Quinnipiac poll shows that Giuliani has the highest favorability rating of all candidates, with 57%, which Clinton has 46%, McCain has 51% and Obama has 44% (notably, 40% don't know enough about Obama to form an opinion.
Yesterday, Mayor Giuliani was campaigning in South Carolina. On the news last night, WNBC's Melissa Russo noted something unusual: While the crowds were very friendly to Giuliani, even reporters (from Southern papers) asked Giuliani to take pictures with him.
Enaging in deliberate ignorance is not grasping.
You simply cannot see the holes in your argument.
You can only believe that Rudy can win by refusing to face electoral and historical reality. Later.
He will get the responsible conservative vote. It's the irresponsible extremist single-issue rightwing vote he won't get, and won't need.
Actually, you might not be, if you never had any values worth selling.
Guiliani has pledged to do that.
I believe him, at least as much as I believe any nominee.
The electoral and historical reality is that pro-life Pennsylvanians haven't delivered Pennsylvania's electoral votes since 1988. And you really can't say ~they~ did it then.
Again, spoken like a tried-and-true Unappeasable.
If anyone disagrees with you, they must be gun-grabbing, abortion-loving, value-less sellouts, right?
It frankly doesn't bother me one bit. It just shows anyone who's paying attention what you and your candidates are really all about. Not exactly a great way of winning hearts and minds.
And the reality is that the GOP will need those votes to have a chance to win in 2008. You cannot win by taking away a large block right off the bat.
:-D
Do you realize that this means a lot of people who agree with you on 'smaller govt' issues then get labeled, by you, as 'liberals'?
Kinda makes your use of the term meaningless. To you, 'liberal' is just an insult you use when someone doesn't agree with you about abortion.
That is untrue. There's far more that a president can do on this issue.
Guiliani has pledged to do that.
Given his history on the issue of abortion and his selection of judges as Mayor, I believe that Giuliani is a liar when he says this.
I believe him, at least as much as I believe any nominee.
Hey, I've got this bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in...
You're the one who came in here telling conservatives to take a hike and calling us wingnuts. And now you complain about the tone of the conversation? Another classic two-faced Rudy booster moment.
We must make certain as people find out about him, they find out only BAD things, such as his lies in print and about his family, his 25 years as a Muslim and the fact that he converted a mere 11 months before his first run for office (coincidence?), etc.
You can scream and rant and pout all you like, but the coming election will be about re-capturing the center, not catering to an extremist base.
You, on the other hand, have a candidate who is currently polling at 2%. It would behoove you to play nice and earn yourself a seat at the table.
Not that it matters much, but the Quinnipiac Poll is out of Connecticut
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/
More classic Rudy booster spin. Clinton vetoed two PBA bans. Bush signed one.
Oh, and Rudy supported Clinton's vetoes. But now says he would support a bill like Clinton vetoed.
I believe him, at least as much as I believe any nominee.
He can't even get his own stories straight about his stances on abortion, and we are expected to believe him about strict constructionists? A guy who thinks the Bill of Rights does not apply in the Five Boroughs unless the mayor concurrs?
A damned thin string to be hanging our fundamental human rights on.
Absolutely.
You keep reminding me I need to get a Gadsden flag for my home.
"Vote for Rudy or we'll knife this dog (Rudy took away the gun)"
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