We'll talk slower and try not to use so many syllables so you can keep up.
Posted on 02/22/2007 7:09:41 AM PST by meg88
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani got good and bad news from the Quinnipiac Poll.
The good news: He beats Senator Hillary Clinton, 48% to her 43% in a national poll conducted last week.
The bad news: It's still over 18 months to go until Election 2008.
Quinnipiac drilled down to the red, blue and purple state level: Giuliani beats Clinton 55-38 in states that voted Republican in the 2004 election.
Interestingly, he ties her 46-46 in the blue states, while it's close in "purple states" (where the "margin in 2004 was less than 7%) - Giuliani has 44% while Clinton has 45%. Here are some more matchups:
- Senator John McCain edges Clinton, 46 - 44 percent
- Clinton tops former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 49 - 37 percent;
- Giuliani beats Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 47 - 40 percent;
- Giuliani tops 2004 vice presidential candidate John Edwards 48 - 40 percent;
- McCain ties Obama 43 - 43 percent;
- McCain gets 43 percent to Edward's 42 percent, a tie;
- Obama tops Romney 49 - 29 percent;
- Edwards beats Romney 48 - 32 percent.
Giuliani would win a Republican primary with 40% of Republican primary voters supporting him over McCain who would get just 18%, while Clinton would win a primary with 38% over Obama (23%). Furthermore, the Quinnipiac poll shows that Giuliani has the highest favorability rating of all candidates, with 57%, which Clinton has 46%, McCain has 51% and Obama has 44% (notably, 40% don't know enough about Obama to form an opinion.
Yesterday, Mayor Giuliani was campaigning in South Carolina. On the news last night, WNBC's Melissa Russo noted something unusual: While the crowds were very friendly to Giuliani, even reporters (from Southern papers) asked Giuliani to take pictures with him.
His name is Bill Sali, the president of the very small freshman GOP class in the House. An experienced principled legislator, and as fine a Christian gentleman as you will meet anywhere.
Pro abort AND pro-Brady Center.
This is the basic fact that you are in denial of. And your missing this point is the flaw in your analysis.
He's known as 'Americas Mayor'. People nationally feel he cleaned up NYC, and was tough on 9/11. He's known as a good govt manager who did an amazingly great job turning around the biggest city.
This will cause many, many Ds to cross over.
Yet you ignore this.
We'll just have to wait and see who's predictions turn out to be right. Then again, I thought the Dallas Cowboys would make the playoffs . . . so my crystal ball isn't something I'd be willing to bet the farm on!
Careful what you ask for, partner, when Rudy finds out he cannot make the expected headway leftward and has to hold the party together to have any chance of winning.
In fact, we appear to gain more by jettisoning them than we do by caving in to their demands.
They want to sit out? Fine. Let 'em. Just don't expect any consideration if Guiliani becomes President.
Conservatives expect no consideration in a potential Giuliani Administration anyway, so your threat is empty.
Every conservative should read what you have to say. It'll wake 'em up, maybe.
All these Rockefeller RINOs under our noses all these years on FR. Who wudda thunk?
That's why Bob Beauprez won his first congressional election in a squeaker. The Dems thought they put one over on us by having a court draw a new district that looked balanced on registration, but actually trended Dem, swinging for Algore when the rest of the state went for Dubya. Their candidate ran a lot of pro-abortion ads. Only one problem. Many of the Dems in that district are Catholic Hispanics. Enough swung over to Beauprez to give him the race.
We'll talk slower and try not to use so many syllables so you can keep up.
Ping to post #207, for what good it will do a closed mind.
I always knew it. Words mean things, and most of them outted themselves long ago.
Sticking to factual posts by your side would reduce my workload a good 95 percent.
Congrats for that.
There, that's better. Now that we have the proper nomenclature, we can have a proper discussion. Reasonable conservatives have already signalled that they are willing to vote for Guiliani. So have moderates and independents--and not a few moderate liberals. That means he can jettison the Wingnut crowd and still win the Presidency.
We only post facts, except when we're quoting you.
So you are calling conservatives wingnuts on a conservative website.
That nickname was given to him by Oprah Winfrey. That is hardly a consideration for whether he should be named the GOP nominee or not.
Sayeth the man who could not grasp pro-life electoral dynamics. Please, break into a refrain of "Rudy's not a gun grabber" for us!
No, silly. I am a conservative. Wouldn't make much sense for me to call myself a wingnut, would it?
I'm calling you and your fellow Unappeasables winguts.
Oh I grasp them quite well. You simply cannot see the holes in your argument.
And sorry, I don't do requests.
"Reasonable" being defined as those "conservatives" who only care about "winning," not about what they have "won", if, and this is a HUGE "if," they actually win.
So have moderates and independents--and not a few moderate liberals.
The use of the word "Moderate" is a tipoff. To folks like you, anyone to the right of Mao is a "moderate."
That means he can jettison the Wingnut crowd and still win the Presidency.
Jettison away, then. Good luck with that.
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