Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Airbus: Will the EU’s Champion Go Airbust?
The Brussels Journal ^ | 17 Feburary 2007 | Elaib Harvey

Posted on 02/17/2007 2:45:11 PM PST by lowbuck

I understand that this week there was a general board meeting of Airbus Industries. At that meeting the executives were presented with a plan to save the troubled European National Champion. These plans, called Power8, should be made public on Tuesday next week. I also understand they won’t be.

Airbus needs to save over 1 billion Euro a year.

The plan was, I was told, to lay off all contract staff, which would mean thousands of job losses across the EU, in particular in France, Germany, Spain and the UK. Of course if this was a business in the normal fashion the executives would have hummed and haahed about the severity of the measure, then looked at the hatchet face of the CFO, gritted their teeth and accepted this as the only way to save the company.

But Airbus is not a normal industry. It is industrio-political. It is the EU’s champion in the great joust with the US and Boeing.

So the suggestion was taken off the table. Essentially the four Governments had made it clear that they wouldn’t complete any orders with Airbus if their own contract workers were sacked.

Economics Minister Glos said before the talks that he wanted to ensure that Germany was not hit disproportionately by any job cuts, and repeated his warning that German defence orders for Airbus parent company EADS could be cancelled.

Now what? Well as far as I can gather the Board is in a tight spot. It knows that they have to do this, but politically they cannot. The upshot is probably that they will just slowly sink into the sand.

The other possibility is that we will witness a round of governmental chicken, with the first to blink to see redundancies. Any betting that Bristol is doomed?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airbus; airbust; boeing; eads
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-37 next last
It's getting to be a real "food fight" over Airbus and jobs. Politically, EADS/Airbus is "stuffed" whatever they do.
1 posted on 02/17/2007 2:45:14 PM PST by lowbuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: lowbuck
Any form of welfare, if it gets big enough to bankrupt countries, will eventually fail.
It's just a matter of when.

Yes, even in highly technical forms.

2 posted on 02/17/2007 2:48:16 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck

Appoint a committee to study the matter.


3 posted on 02/17/2007 2:49:29 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck

While I don't like their product, the consumers would ultimately suffer if there's no competition for Boeing. Companies rarely innovate unless there's a compelling business reason to do so.


4 posted on 02/17/2007 2:53:30 PM PST by mgstarr (I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Drango

Does the UN have any leftover "Oil-for-Food" cash they could chip in to save this fine socialist experiment?


5 posted on 02/17/2007 3:01:08 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


6 posted on 02/17/2007 3:09:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paleo Conservative

Screw them. Bunch of socialist.


7 posted on 02/17/2007 3:18:12 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr

The market would fill the void. With Boeing and a subsidized Airbus, there isn't room for a new, competitive, profit generating manufacture, but there would be if the assembler, Airbus, left the stage. Then everyone would truly win, as you would have two hyper competitors. Right now Airbus is becoming a oxygen thief and a problem child for decades. Not good.


8 posted on 02/17/2007 3:27:49 PM PST by Leisler (REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck
The problem with a socialist system in a situation like this is that the countries don't see net benefits to cutting costs by laying off workers.

If they lay off those workers, those workers will no longer be paying that huge portion of their incomes in taxes, and will instead rely on the welfare programs of those governments.

The end result is that laying off workers doesn't provide much of a net savings from the point of view of the governments that make up Airbus. If may improve the bottom line of the company, but doesn't improve the overall bottom line for the governments that own the company.

9 posted on 02/17/2007 4:04:34 PM PST by untrained skeptic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Leisler

Should Airbus ultimately fail, I think Brazilian Embraer could potentially take its place by starting to make intercontinental-range widebodies.


10 posted on 02/17/2007 4:48:23 PM PST by El Conservador ("The world needs to be reminded that all human ills are not curable by legislation" - Warren Harding)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck
Image hosted by Photobucket.com
and the RATS, take another one in the...............HA ha!!!

11 posted on 02/17/2007 5:34:25 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr
"While I don't like their product, the consumers would ultimately suffer if there's no competition for Boeing. Companies rarely innovate unless there's a compelling business reason to do so."

Where were you when Boeing was "merging" on top of McDonnell-Douglas?

12 posted on 02/17/2007 5:37:39 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: untrained skeptic
"...the countries don't see net benefits to cutting costs by laying off workers."

Ever audited a european company?
They DON'T lay off workers, they idle them and pay 'redundancy' wages.
Airbust cannot save money on idled plants without huge concessions - which they won't get because not only the governments but the unions - and laws - come into play.

They'll go for more tax euros and they'll get at least enough to keep the doors open.

Then the entire debate goes back to politics and how deeply the various governments can subsidize sales below their cost to produce the product.

Of course, welfare, vacations, and wage levels cannot be reduced - so look for more taxation, less defense, less aid to the crumbling third world, and more demands for the US to 'give a hand'.

13 posted on 02/17/2007 5:45:29 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Paleo Conservative
Neat photo!
14 posted on 02/17/2007 5:46:22 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Publius6961
Any form of welfare, if it gets big enough to bankrupt countries, will eventually fail. It's just a matter of when. Yes, even in highly technical forms.

Correct you are; and, only this "technical" type of welfare can blame it's death spiral on ... wiring issues.

.

15 posted on 02/17/2007 6:03:35 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: norton

I'm quite sorry MD and Lockheed aren't in the passenger market anymore (and that MD was absorbed at all).

Look I don't like Airbus but I also dislike monopolies.

Competition spurs innovation; that's capitalism.

At the present time, with economies of scale and numerous barriers to entry, there's not a lot of real competition in that market. Unfortunately I think the next competitor is coming from China and that won't help the west at all.


16 posted on 02/17/2007 7:15:52 PM PST by mgstarr (I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Paleo Conservative

LOL! Cool photo.


17 posted on 02/17/2007 11:30:47 PM PST by phantomworker ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr
At the present time, with economies of scale and numerous barriers to entry, there's not a lot of real competition in that market. Unfortunately I think the next competitor is coming from China and that won't help the west at all.

Don't count out Brazil.

18 posted on 02/18/2007 2:10:42 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: untrained skeptic
The problem with a socialist system in a situation like this is that the countries don't see net benefits to cutting costs by laying off workers.

So true, once a private company surrenders to the Socialist Bureaucracy, it becomes incapable of making the necessary business decisions and even less capable of executing the decisions that do get made.

They become beasts of burden of the state, taking up the slack of becoming a jobs program for the state, basically an extension of it's unemployment plan.

And they also become unable to remove poor employees, finding themselves enslaved by unions and the bureaucracy that feeds upon their lifeblood. The state becomes a parasite, leeching away all will to succeed.

The drain is such that eventually, Airbus will become simply a name brand, but be unable to truly compete from within the confines of the socialist state.

Their only escape will be the avenues that they take to work around the restraints that the state has created for them.

Airbus may be a European company, but it's future is outside of the state.

19 posted on 02/18/2007 5:28:30 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: lowbuck

I don't understand how airbus can be in such bad shape, they've had great sales for over 5 years, yea the production delay for the 380 hurt, but from all accounts the 380 problems are solved and production will begin soon. How can things be so terrible that Airbus might go under. Makes no sense.


20 posted on 02/18/2007 6:38:32 AM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-37 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson