Posted on 02/17/2007 9:18:51 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
"We are in it for the long haul in Iraq. We will most likely always have a presence there. That is the reality of it."
Hell...we're still in the Balkans...
wow!
[...GWB warned from the beginning and repeated
again and again and again that we will be in this
for the long haul.
It's called selective listening. They are DENIAL
MONKEYS who hear no warning, see no warning,
speak no warning.
If anything Washington (along with many of the other Framers) would see no problem in this vote. Questioning of one branch by the others on all things is what is intended to keep them in check
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Washington would see in this vote the same kind of lack of support and equivocation that he had to deal with from the Continental Congress during the revolution.
Our political leaders were given the chance to vote when this thing was initiated. This was their Constitutional duty. They voted to support putting soldiers in harms way. They should have gone all the way and voted the formal war declaration.
I don't allow them the excuses that they were lied to or misled. It only reveals them as idiots or dupes. It was their job to understand all the issues, all the intelligence and to be forward thinking in making the decision for an invasion. This conflict has been nowhere as bloody as I thought it would be, and I can clearly see that I have studied and tracked the progress of this conflict better than all but of a handful of our political "leaders".
Shame on them for thinking that this was just another bill another political grandstand. Political cowardice and blindness.
Oh yes billbears, it is only the conservatives who bandy about the word treason....
http://newsbusters.org/node/2424
On Letterman, Al Franken Jokes About Execution for Treason of Rove, Libby and Bush
Posted by Brent Baker on October 22, 2005 - 01:44.
"And so basically, what it looks like is going to happen is that Libby and Karl Rove are going to be executed” because “outing a CIA agent is treason,” left-wing author and radio talk show host Al Franken asserted Friday night, to audience laughter, on CBS’s Late Show with David Letterman. Franken qualified his hard-edged satire: "Yeah. And I don't know how I feel about it because I'm basically against the death penalty, but they are going to be executed it looks like." Franken later suggested that President Bush is at risk of receiving the same punishment, since Karl Rove likely told him what he did, but he added a caveat: “I think, by the way, that we should never ever, ever, ever execute a sitting President."
or one of the supreme political leaders....
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9819_Al_Gore-_Bush_Betrayed_America
Monday, February 09, 2004
Al Gore: Bush "Betrayed" America
Al Gore, who was a featured speaker at the Arab League’s lunatic “think tank” known as the Zayed Centre for Coordination and Follow-up, continues the downward slide of Democratic political rhetoric: Gore Says America ‘Betrayed’ by Bush.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Al Gore, who lost the presidency to George W. Bush in 2000, assailed the commander in chief Sunday, accusing him of betraying the nation by invading Iraq.
“He took America on an ill-conceived foreign adventure, dangerous to our troops, that was preordained and planned before 9-11,” Gore told Tennessee Democrats at a party event.
The former vice president said that he, like millions of others, had put partisanship aside after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and wanted Bush to lead the nation. Instead, Gore shouted to the crowd, Bush “betrayed us.”
If we’re going to start throwing around charges of “betrayal,” what should we call lending the prestige of the US Vice Presidency to a blatantly insane anti-America, antisemitic Arab hate group in the Persian Gulf—after September 11? And taking their money—no doubt quite a lot of it?
But questions like this will never be asked of Al Gore. Here’s a good example of the fare at the Zayed Centre: Author of Saudi Blood Libel Lectures at Arab League Think Tank: ‘U.S. War on Iraq Timed To Coincide With Jewish Holiday Purim’.
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So superior.. you liberals, just above it all.
Appreciate your posts, billbears. You manifest the mind-set that can, has, and will always, lead to the violent death of millions. It is always good to be reminded of that sort of thinking.
"Remember their new description... White Flag Republicans"
Send a white feather to the traitorous ----s who voted for this.
Leaving aside for a moment the separation-of-powers issues surrounding Pelosi’s statement, what does it say about the party in control of Congress when it openly announces that, if its members have their way, the military option for dealing with Iran will not be available to the United States? Is there any way more certain to embolden an enemy than to announce openly that the military option is not an option? And they wonder why Americans don’t trust them on national security...
Fellow Patriots, we hope as fervently as anyone that the security challenges posed by Iran can be resolved without resorting to war, but it is sheer folly to tell a potential adversary that it faces no threat of war. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
You've been here since 1999. When did you start ringing that bell?
Yes it does.
Excuse me .. when you put all your opinion and trust and faith in one institution .. like SCOTUS .. then you're saying that whatever they say is the LAW .. and nobody can counter it .. THAT'S JUST PLAIN STUPID AND RIDICULOUS!!
If SCOTUS says the sky is purple .. I am free and able to use my common sense and determine for myself that the sky is really BLUE.
Are you getting the picture ..??
Evidently she feels free to lie thru her teeth, knowing the media will never question her statements.
I saved that Post with the face of Baker and Hamilton as monkeys.
She held that paper up on the floor of the senate.
It's payback time. I want to see that paper held up on the floor of the senate.......TREASON........
Never said only 'conservatives'. Course liberals don't post it in 18 point font on the front of newspapers that often do they? Eh, whatever it takes to whip up the masses?
So superior.. you liberals, just above it all.
Far from liberal. Consider me an Old Right conservative, moderate Federalist even.
Of course it doesn't 'lead to the violent death of millions', but hey I realize all you have to work with is hyperbole. Please do continue.
Oh yes, I'm getting the picture trust me. There are usually several levels within a society. One level goes by the definition as intended by the Framers, prior judgements by SCOTUS, and the legal definition. Another level throws words around like nothing and applying them to anything with which they disagree. Much as the ardent government supporters intended to be done with any media that spoke out against the government in the 1790s. Now they're just applying it to politicians.
Of course no one throwing around this charge has answered the simple question, and a question that deserves an answer. At what point is 'victory' declared? I've seen the ridiculous 'we're in it for the long haul' or 'we're there until it's finished' but this little niggling keeps getting at me. Cause you see wars, projects, actions, whatever you want to call it have definitive finish lines. This one however doesn't. It's a war on another noun. It's only over when the Executive branch says it's over. And considering 'terror' will always be with us (much like drugs, poverty, illiteracy, etc.) it can and will go on for decades.
I just wonder if your lot will be happy with that other party is in power...
Not only outnumbered, but we have the worst RINOs outside the Washington Beltway.
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