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Stocks stumble on Microsoft Vista view
Reuters (excerpt) ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jennifer Coogan

Posted on 02/16/2007 7:21:54 AM PST by HAL9000

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stocks fell on Friday after Microsoft Corp. tempered revenue expectations for the Vista computer operating system.

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Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Balmer said late on Thursday analysts' revenue forecasts for Vista were "overly aggressive." Shares of Microsoft were the top-weighted decliner on the Dow, S&P 500 and the Nasdaq 100.

"Microsoft can't catch a break. We're at 20 million shares in volume already - that's not your grandmother trading," said Cummins Catherwood, managing director at Rutherford, Brown & Catherwood in Philadelphia. "Those hedge funds can't deal with disappointment. They can't afford to wait for the impact to dissipate."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: djia; microsoft; msft; nasdaq; stockmarket; vista
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To: taxed2death

... a better one with..."the cube"...LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtaLX9fYPr8&mode=related&search=


81 posted on 02/16/2007 9:11:57 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: longtermmemmory
As a monopoly, the user is the LAST thing on MS's mind.

Not just as a monopoly. The Zune clearly puts the interests of the labels far above the user.

82 posted on 02/16/2007 9:22:12 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TomGuy
Isn't .NET a later version of the old Visual Basic? I don't run anything .NET. I don't want to install the 20 meg operating program.

.NET is pretty good. It is a general framework that provides programming interfaces, libraries, compilers and runtime operation for any language that it supports. It supports a heavily modified Visual Basic and J# (sort of .NET Java), but the best language for it is C#, written from scratch for use with .NET, taking the best from many other languages (mainly Java and Delphi). It's a very simple, elegant, yet powerful language that's my current favorite.

Some things in .NET are not from scratch though. In some cases a class you use is just a wrapper for the old Windows functionality (like mail really being the old CDONTS). At least that was the case with 1.1, I haven't checked 2.0 for that yet.

I'd suggest downloading .NET, as there are some good programs written for it.

83 posted on 02/16/2007 9:31:58 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: mmichaels1970

For some like you, its fun, alot of us are happy not to see that 'blue screen of death'! Finally after many years this XP thingy I have seems to run nice and quiet, they will have to pry it out if my....well you know.


84 posted on 02/16/2007 9:33:06 AM PST by Roland Hand
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Mac is a non-issue in my office in part because of the higher price (and written for windows speciality software we use. Emulators can never guarantee compatability)

Its a windows world for the end user at the non-niche business desk.


85 posted on 02/16/2007 9:33:41 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Izzy Dunne
0.06 percent
Some "stumble".

Apple dumped all its shares?

: )

86 posted on 02/16/2007 9:47:54 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: gjones77
Alright, all you people yapping about Vista probably haven't even used it, so please, enough unless you've actually used it and can back up this yapping.

I've never used diptheria, either, and I'll continue yapping about that as long as I feel like it!

You got any more moronic thoughts you might want to share?

87 posted on 02/16/2007 9:50:24 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: gjones77
...all you people yapping about Vista probably haven't even used it...

Yep - taking advice on Vista from a Mac evangelist is probably not the smartest thing to do. I've been running their final distro release for a couple of weeks now and I won't be going back to XP on that particular box. It is, however, enough box to run it. I see that they're selling Vista Home on entry-level boxes with 500MB RAM and I think that's a poor decision. Of the six boxes I have between work and home only one is really up to it hardware-wise, and even that one doesn't have enough dedicated video RAM to run Aero properly.

It is pretty - one might say Mac-like if that wouldn't draw the usual gaggle of "the Mac is the only answer" geese. I do think it's overpriced, which is also Mac-like. I won't be paying to upgrade my other five machines because it just isn't worth it. From Microsoft's POV that's a problem, but they brought it on themselves.

You want lean-and-mean efficiency, build your own box and install Linux. You will tinker with that, however. You want ease of use and great graphics and are willing to put up with some cutesy terminology ("Chooser," for example), get a Mac. I recommend that for non-computer-geek family members. You want to leverage past applications purchases, at least for awhile, go XP. When that's no longer an option you'll be moving to Vista. If that sounds like a kind of weak marketing model, I think it is. If Microsoft's market penetration doesn't take them through this then things could get very interesting indeed. All IMHO, of course.

88 posted on 02/16/2007 9:50:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: antiRepublicrat

The Zune seems to be a marketing insult rather than a product.

The only thing the RIAA did not include was a credit card swiper to take your money each time you turned the thing on.

My best mp3 player is a 2 gig sd chip in my pda.

better than ANY ipod or zune.


89 posted on 02/16/2007 9:55:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: frogjerk
Please give me a couple of good reasons why I should upgrade my PC to Vista.

Three reasons: Bill and Melinda’s kids. Do you really want to see them homeless and starving?

90 posted on 02/16/2007 9:58:16 AM PST by dighton
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To: antiRepublicrat
>It's a very simple, elegant, yet powerful language that's my current favorite

This is off-topic,
but I'll be quick: Do you know
if low level code

for processors with
multiple cores have access
to op-codes that set

which core will handle
the current op-code sequence?
I've always wondered . . .

91 posted on 02/16/2007 11:14:27 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Roland Hand
For some like you, its fun

Well now, I wouldn't go that far.....but as a tech consultant/programmer, I'd better make sure I stay ahead of the curve and learn what makes it tick. Before long, I'll have dozens of clients calling me to ask me to fix/clean/write an app for their Vista OS.

As much as some may wish people would switch over to OSX or Linux, reality dictates I be ready for the world according to Vista.
92 posted on 02/16/2007 11:40:01 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Post-Neolithic

>>The only reason that MS is selling any VISTAS' at all is because manufacturers and sellers of PC's are installing it on new PCs.<<

Yep. I am considering getting a new laptop. I will do my best to get one with no operating system (or XP) but if not, I will wipe the drive and start again with the version of XP I am running on the old computer that I will be replacing.

Of course I will have to do the phone call thing to keep if functioning. But I've already done that twice... ;)


93 posted on 02/16/2007 12:04:14 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Post-Neolithic

>>The only reason that MS is selling any VISTAS' at all is because manufacturers and sellers of PC's are installing it on new PCs.<<

Yep. I am considering getting a new laptop. I will do my best to get one with no operating system (or XP) but if not, I will wipe the drive and start again with the version of XP I am running on the old computer that I will be replacing.

Of course I will have to do the phone call thing to keep if functioning. But I've already done that twice... ;)


94 posted on 02/16/2007 12:04:21 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: RobRoy
I am considering getting a new laptop. I will do my best to get one with no operating system (or XP) but if not, I will wipe the drive and start again with the version of XP I am running on the old computer that I will be replacing.

Check out this one.

Acer Aspire AS7104WSMi Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz / 802.11b/g Wireless / 17-Inch WXGA+ / 512MB DDR2 / 80GB HDD / DVDRW / Windows XP Home / Notebook PC for $649.97 at Tigerdirect.com.
95 posted on 02/16/2007 12:17:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Wow!

I don't do Celeron but there are some bargains out there apparently.


96 posted on 02/16/2007 12:20:59 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: mmichaels1970

I agree, for you it is 'work'. Me I just need to be able to post here when I want to. :)


97 posted on 02/16/2007 12:22:15 PM PST by Roland Hand
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To: gjones77
It also has a predictive application system that makes note of what programs you use most often when you start your computer and loads those into memory when the computer starts so they respond faster.

YUCK! The way that Windoze bottles up memory is one the the very things I hate the most about it. Thanks for giving yet one more reason not to buy it.

98 posted on 02/16/2007 12:42:16 PM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: theFIRMbss
Do you know if low level code for processors with multiple cores have access to op-codes that set which core will handle the current op-code sequence?

You can do that in most high-level languages; you're looking for something called thread processor affinity. However, in portable languages like C#, affinity is more of a request than a command, as the OS can override the .NET runtime if it needs to.

99 posted on 02/16/2007 12:48:15 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: gjones77
"They make their money off of Office and enterprise level apps and OS's and various other little areas."

That is very true. They make their big bucks from enterprise licensing, support, and "consulting". I once had to show a MS "consultant" how to manually map a network drive. From what I've seen the "consultants" they send to sites don't really know anything. They are just sent out to locations for PR and are good enough on a computer to follow the instructions of the mysterious person they stay on the cell phone with 95% of the time they are there.

100 posted on 02/16/2007 1:00:42 PM PST by KoRn
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