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Stocks stumble on Microsoft Vista view
Reuters (excerpt) ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jennifer Coogan

Posted on 02/16/2007 7:21:54 AM PST by HAL9000

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To: EagleUSA
Vista has been a major disappointment to the computer world, a warmed-over version of XP really with an overly high price tag, slower performance, technically obsolete out of the box (compared to other op systems like Mac OS X) given the amount of time, and where the state of the art is in operation systems....and the list goes on.

I know lots of people who didn't buy Macs because of the price.
21 posted on 02/16/2007 7:39:41 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: gjones77
And for those touting Mac OS X, you might want to take a look at 30 days of bugs for Mac OS X, that also has huge gaping security holes.

Those claims of "huge gaping security holes" were absurd. They pose no threat for worms, viruses, spyware or botnets to the Mac community. Vista shipped with more security problems on it's first day that Mac OS X has had in five years.

22 posted on 02/16/2007 7:40:10 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: mainepatsfan
Is it getting Windows 98 like bad coverage?

More like Windows ME bad coverage.

23 posted on 02/16/2007 7:41:54 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: gjones77

Please give me a couple of good reasons why I should upgrade my PC to Vista.


24 posted on 02/16/2007 7:42:14 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: gjones77
Alright, all you people yapping about Vista probably haven't even used it

I just started using it (Windows Vista Ultimate) last weekend and so far I'm pretty happy with it. I did notice a large difference in many video and photo programs.
25 posted on 02/16/2007 7:42:40 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: HAL9000
Microsoft is charging too much money for their products not to mention the quality sucks.
26 posted on 02/16/2007 7:43:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (If no one buys illegal drugs, we win the war on drugs)
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To: gjones77

And Bill Gates was an idiot for literally daring hackers to attack Vista in his Newsweek interview. He's lost his grasp of reality.


27 posted on 02/16/2007 7:43:22 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Yo-Yo
More like Windows ME bad coverage.

Now that's bad!

28 posted on 02/16/2007 7:44:23 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: HAL9000

While what MS did with Vista is interesting, rewriting huge portions on .NET etc etc etc.. reality is there is no real impetous for anyone to really upgrade.

Vista will penetrate the market as it becomes the only OS available with new hardware... there is and will be no major rush to upgrade to it.

It was flat out lie by their marketing folks to claim otherwise.


29 posted on 02/16/2007 7:45:22 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HAL9000

While what MS did with Vista is interesting, rewriting huge portions on .NET etc etc etc.. reality is there is no real impetous for anyone to really upgrade.

Vista will penetrate the market as it becomes the only OS available with new hardware... there is and will be no major rush to upgrade to it.

It was flat out lie by their marketing folks to claim otherwise.


30 posted on 02/16/2007 7:45:30 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: gjones77
Alright, all you people yapping about Vista probably haven't even used it, so please, enough unless you've actually used it and can back up this yapping.

Why should I learn about the Vista downside the hard way, (after spending the loot to buy it?)
I depend on publications and people with expertise who publish their technical opnions. Moreover, most of the comments I read are from users and it ain't good.

31 posted on 02/16/2007 7:46:51 AM PST by Banjoguy (The words "Democrat" and democratic are not interchangable.)
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To: HAL9000

They pose threats, but no one writes virii for Mac OS, how does it feel to be running an irrelevant OS?

The only reasons no one has bothered writing a virus for Mac is because there aren't enough users to make it worth it, the people writing these either:

A: Want to effect as many people as possible

or

B: Don't like MS or businesses/Government in general and just want to wreak havoc on those systems

Writing one for a Mas doesn't accomplish either of those goals.

If some one wanted to write a virus that affected on Mac's they could.

By the way, scripted based viruses for browsers and email programs would effect any platform since all browsers and email apps work effectively the same.

(On a side note, yes, Mac's are susceptible to these, saw it in action at a web development company I worked for in the IT group)


32 posted on 02/16/2007 7:46:57 AM PST by gjones77
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To: HAL9000; Toddsterpatriot

Market crash alert.


33 posted on 02/16/2007 7:48:04 AM PST by groanup (USMC: When it absolutely, positively HAS to be destroyed overnight.)
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To: EagleUSA

Rewriting huge portions of OS's behind the scenes offers very little visible to the end user.... and that's basically what Vista is.

THey did some interesting stuff, and rewrote huge huge amounts of the OS on top of .NET which in the long run isn't a bad thing....

But from what the end user can see and do, it doesn't look much different....

Basically it will penetrate as it becomes the only OS available with new hardware.


34 posted on 02/16/2007 7:48:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: EagleUSA

Rewriting huge portions of OS's behind the scenes offers very little visible to the end user.... and that's basically what Vista is.

THey did some interesting stuff, and rewrote huge huge amounts of the OS on top of .NET which in the long run isn't a bad thing....

But from what the end user can see and do, it doesn't look much different....

Basically it will penetrate as it becomes the only OS available with new hardware.


35 posted on 02/16/2007 7:48:48 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Yo-Yo

One of the worst Christmas presents I ever got.


36 posted on 02/16/2007 7:48:57 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Izzy Dunne
given the huge stock jumps that occured after Windows 95,98, XP and 2000 came out, *any* stumble at all is a disaster.

lets face it folks, Vista is a lemon.

37 posted on 02/16/2007 7:49:30 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: HAL9000
Ballmer delivers sobering message at Microsoft event [tempered the expectations - Vista....]
  Posted by TomGuy to Sub-Driver
On General/Chat 02/15/2007 6:59:34 PM CST · 4 of 13

"The thing people forget is a new Windows release is a chance to sustain the revenue we have, every new Windows release is not necessarily a huge revenue opportunity," Ballmer said, adding that, "people are a little bit over optimistic, or more optimistic than we are about Windows revenue."

Translation: This is a release to just make some dollars. It really doesn't have many new bells and whistles, but hey, we need some money, so here's the new latest and greatest for you to run out and buy.


38 posted on 02/16/2007 7:50:00 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: gjones77
"Alright, all you people yapping about Vista probably haven't even used it, so please, enough unless you've actually used it and can back up this yapping."

I used it for a couple of months (beta)and wound up wiping it and reinstalling XP. I saw no real benefit other than a pretty interface which just hogs more resources and slows down the computer. Many of my favorite programs wouldn't run on it. Most of the so called "enhanced security" is more for the security of MS and Hollwood. MS reserves the right to delete any program from you computer which it deems "spyware". Given the draconian DRM, anyone would have to be crazy to choose this over Linux as a media center. And I say that being a windows, not a Linux user.

39 posted on 02/16/2007 7:50:40 AM PST by joebuck
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To: chilepepper
lets face it folks, Vista is a lemon.

It may very well be, but it's a lemon we're going to be made to consume sooner or later.

Regards, Ivan

40 posted on 02/16/2007 7:50:53 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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