don't forget the drive-by amish....clip clop...clip clop...BANG..clip clop..clip clop...
So we are left with at least two possibilities as to the boy's motives.
- He adopted a radical Muslim hatred of the west
- He was so traumatized by his youth he just snapped and there is no religious influence
Neither possibility is discussed in any story about this incident, however.
The last sentence is not accurate. As of yesterday afternoon, the Associated Press started floating the story that Talovic was a post-traumatic stress syndrome sufferer:
Suspect in Utah Killings Fled Bosnia War [the Associated Press at its finest]
You want things to be worse? start pushing people into a corner. You didn't cast aspersions upon all cannibals when you found out Dahmer was one, did you?
LOL it's still in bad taste for the media to be banging the bigotry drum. Bigotry happens when you use the actions of a few to blanket indict the many.
Is that supposed to be a beard?
It does not show much but you can hear what's happening. The off duty officer was very brave considering he was in plain clothes which could have led to confusion with the other officers arriving and that he had only one clip of ammo.
The real motive of the media in this is to hide the truth from us. Some would say that the media don't want us to panic.
Others would say that the media feel that the unmentionable people are poor, downtrodden, underclass have-nots and therefore should be forgiven for whatever evil they do.
True. I've only heard the guy described as "Muslim" on Rush and here.
And that's the way it is February, 2007.
Society of Professional Propagandizing Journalists Diversity guidelines for professional "journalists" requires it since within days of 9/11/01.
To wit,
Avoid using word combinations such as 'Islamic terrorist' or 'Muslim extremist' . . .
Avoid using terms such as 'jihad' unless you are certain of their precise meaning ... [jihad means] to exert oneself for the good of Islam and to better oneself.
Ask men and women from within targeted communities to review your coverage and make suggestions. [read: censor]
When writing about terrorism, remember to include white supremacist, radical anti-abortionists and other groups with a history of such activity.
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Why am I not surprised that this guy was a Muslim?
I remember back in December, the cops busted a wannabe Muslim terrorist in Ohio who planned on attacking a shopping mall with grenades hidden in trash cans.
It wont be ignored if someone cleans up the sound on the mall video and picks up and confirms the "Allah Akbar" chant in the background when the police confronted him.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
My anger prompts me to refrain from commenting on this type of article, but that is worse than indifference.
It never occured to the mental midgets at the New York Times that, absent the crazed frenzy of mass murder by the muslim killer, no "Anti-Bosnian immigrant backlash" charecterization would be possible!
And in the case of presidential politics, its the evil Mormons! Matter of fact, possibly a few of the Porter Rockwell (google it) crowd should pay a visit to a couple of the local mosques.
Has there been any mention of police doing further investigation of this 18 year old? Did he have, or have access to a computer? Did he have a cell phone? Have any of the press spoken to kids that know of him when he was in school? Where the heck did he store his weapons?
In September joined a Monday night mixed bowling league as a "walk in" to be put on any team that needed a female bowler. I was placed with 2 young men, who I thought might be Italian or Greek by the complexions, but whose names I didn't recognize.
They are very nice, very young, 18 and 20 and very tolerant of my inconsistent scores. I couldn't recognize the language they sometimes spoke to each other. Since they were originally bowling with lane balls I suggested they asked for custom bowling balls for their birthdays or what ever holiday comes first.
When they said their holiday was about to end I realized it was Ramadan. I asked them about fasting during the day and whether it was a gift-giving holiday like Christmas or Hanakkah. They are very nice young men, one is a high school student, one is an apprentice plumber. The language they are speaking is "Yugoslavian". I guess they're either Serbian or Coatian or Bosnian, since I'm pretty sure there is no more Yugoslavia and am totally confused about what is left there.
They are very nice young men. I'm know there are psycho Muslims out there, just like there are of any other ethninity. Isn't it possible that this 18 year old mall shooter was just a disturbed teenager, not unlike the Columbine shooters? Perhaps the media isn't reporting a "terrorist" connection because there isn't?
Don't you think the media would have jumped all over the "terrorists among us" theme if there was any truth to that?
Of course there is zero evidence that religion had anything to do with this, or even that the boy or his family were practicing Muslims, and as the article notes Bosnian Muslims are not associated with the jihadist crap, and as far as I've ever heard, there is no radical Muslim activity in Salt Lake City or Utah. I've heard lots of other states and cities associated with investigations of radical mosques wannabe terrorist young male Muslims, but never a peep from Utah/SLC.
All the evidence points to this being just a messed up kid, possibly due to his early childhood in a violence-infested war zone and growing up with parents who were also traumatized by that experience. He's probably been a cultural misfit ever since he arrived in Utah, due to the foreignness of American culture and the close-knit Mormon-dominated community in Utah. Quite possibly his family discouraged him from getting involved in the LDS Church, due to their religious heritage (probably more important than theological convictions in the case of Bosnian Muslims), contributing to his social alienation, but I really doubt the "Muslim" angle had any more contribution than that.
While PC can go to far, I do see a benefit to not jumping to conclusions abotu religious motivation every time a Muslim does something bad. Lots of Muslims are no more religiously zealous than Unitarians or agnostics, but there is a large, well-funded, and dangerous Muslim constituency that is eager to take advantage of any opportunity to convert peaceful or non-practicing Muslims to their extremist views. We play into their hands when we're quick to voice suspicion that events like this one are rooted in Muslim faith -- makes it that much easier for the extremists to cozy up to the peaceful Muslims and say "See how evil those infidels are! Always trying to blame Islam for bad things that happen in their country!".
Meantime, doubt 'Mulim' even resonates with majority of American's when hearing he is from Bosnia.
That said; why should the MSM be interested in telling the truth here. It surely does not serve their agenda in any way; to even 'go there'.
Remember growing up and how I felt sorry for the Russians who only were exposed to 'propaganda'. . .