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Gilliani is Best GOP Hope in Florida (Beats HRC In Head to Head Matchup for Sunshine State)
Angus Reid Global Monitor ^ | 2.12.07 | Quinnipiac University Polling Institute

Posted on 02/14/2007 7:14:04 AM PST by meg88

Giuliani is Best GOP Hope in Florida February 12, 2007

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Republican Rudy Giuliani holds an early lead in the Sunshine State, according to a poll by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

47 per cent of respondents in Florida would vote for the former New York City mayor in the 2008 United States presidential election, while 44 per cent would support Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

In other match-ups, Rodham Clinton leads Arizona senator John McCain by four points, and holds an 18-point advantage over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. McCain leads former North Carolina senator John Edwards by one point, and Illinois senator Barack Obama by two points.

In 2004, Republican George W. Bush carried Florida’s 27 electoral votes, with 52 per cent of all cast ballots. In 2000, weeks of recounts and court injunctions concluded in a 537-vote victory for Bush over Democrat Al Gore. Since 1972, the only Democrats to win the Sunshine State in a presidential election are Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1996.

Bush is ineligible for a third term in office. The next United States presidential election is scheduled for November 2008.

Polling Data

If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were (the Democrat) and (the Republican), for whom would you vote?

Rudy Giuliani (R) 47% - 44% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 47% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) Mitt Romney (R) 34% - 52% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 42% John Edwards (R) John McCain (R) 42% - 40% Barack Obama (R)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: giuliani; hitlary; rudigiuliani; thegaypatriotsfav
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To: Merry
It's not like he is going to personally go down and open up an abortion clinic.

Rudy abortion spin point #1 - the president can't directly do anything about abortion.

Wrong. Clinton vetoed two PBA bans. Bush signed on. Rudy opposed them all.

If people insist on being single issue voters, we might as well hand the election over to Hillary.

General Rudy talking point #4 - his opponents are single issue voters.

Oh, if that were only the case. Rudy has at least SIX critical non-conservative positions. He's pro-choice. Pro-gun-control. Pro-amnesty. Pro-gay-rights. Pro-CFR. And now pro-global-warming.

I think I'm gonna compile a list of all the nonsensical Rudy booster talking points and attacks we've seen on FR to date.

21 posted on 02/14/2007 7:31:52 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: MMcC

I guess it doesn't occur to many in the GOP leadership that the best way to avoid a conservative rift is to NOT push a guy at the far left of the party as the nominee.


22 posted on 02/14/2007 7:33:02 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I just don't understand this apparent love fest over Rudy Guliani.

I can't think of a better example of the power of the media to influence public opinion. They are about to vanquish their worse enemies, religious and social conservatives, and they really don't have to do much to make it happen. Indeed, FReepers will do it for them.

23 posted on 02/14/2007 7:34:37 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: meg88

That is true, but many FReepers would prefer Hillary to Rudy, so it seems.


24 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:07 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Vaquero

Fine, work against him in the primaries,

but not supporting him in the general will get you Madame President Hillary.


25 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:09 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MMcC
I'd be wiling to bet that this has been in the works for a while and much of the funding if traced back far enough would come from Soros and company.

If Soros didn't pay for it, it's a sure thing he and his kind are loving it.

26 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:21 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: meg88
---"What 3rd party candidate, Nader? He detracts from Hillary"---

I live in IL, and I am an active member of two grassroots Conservative organizations, one Pro-Family, one Pro-Gun.

There is already an active movement among many of us prepared to back a Third Party candidate if Rudy wins the nod. Names mentioned, some (but not all) of whom have already expressed interest: Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, Bob Smith, Pat Buchanan,....just to name a few. It will be someone who essentially takes votes away from Rudy Giuliani EXCLUSIVELY.

This is why it's going to have to be someone else. Remember, without Pat Buchanan in 2000 - Bush wouldn't have even needed Florida.
27 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:23 AM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: dirtboy

Tell that to Mel Martinez at the NRC. Blame Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove for this development. They sat back and let this happen in an effort to disarm the Religious Right and kill the conservative arm of the party.


28 posted on 02/14/2007 7:37:15 AM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: dirtboy

My vote is with Mr. Gingrich.


29 posted on 02/14/2007 7:39:35 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I just don't understand this apparent love fest over Rudy Guliani.

Me, I just don't understand this apparent hate fest over Rudy Giuliani.

Do Freepers want the Republican Party to field a candidate capable of beating Hillary Clinton, or don't they?

30 posted on 02/14/2007 7:40:38 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: meg88

Gilliani . . . nice twist.

I usually see Guiliani.

Both of which make me think he'll never get elected, since people can't spell his name even when it's staring them in the face from the article.


31 posted on 02/14/2007 7:41:11 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: meg88

Rudi is a great candidate if your goal is to elect anybody with an "R" next to his name. He is a horrible candidate if you want to elect a Conservative.


32 posted on 02/14/2007 7:42:08 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Merry
Guiliani is not running to be Pope. It's not like he is going to personally go down and open up an abortion clinic. If people insist on being single issue voters, we might as well hand the election over to Hillary.

Bingo. The President has, at best, a tiny marginal impact on the abortion issue anyway.

The job description of President is not "Abortion-Decider". We've had an outspoken pro-life President for seven years now. Abortions still occur at pretty much the same rate. This should result in headache-inducing cognitive dissonance for the single-issue Freepers.

33 posted on 02/14/2007 7:42:20 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: TitansAFC

What if Newt throws his hat into the race? Will you support him then


34 posted on 02/14/2007 7:42:28 AM PST by meg88
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To: dirtboy
Rudy abortion spin point #1 - the president can't directly do anything about abortion. Wrong. Clinton vetoed two PBA bans. Bush signed on. Rudy opposed them all.

And those PBA bans passing, or not passing, had a huge impact on whether/how many abortions take place.

Right?

35 posted on 02/14/2007 7:43:16 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: MrB
Fine, work against him in the primaries...

Dude... that's what we're doing. And, by the way, we're getting called traitorous names for doing so...

36 posted on 02/14/2007 7:43:31 AM PST by pgyanke (Gay marriage does to real marriage what counterfeit money does to real money. - Hemogoblin)
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To: TitansAFC
This is going to be a Hillary blowout

No doubt about it. I used to use my mother and grandfather as a gauge on elections. Gramps is 93, a union man, democrat. Mom is a liberal dem her entire life and they both voted for Bush and they know what Hillary is all about. They would absolutely NOT vote for her, but it doesn't matter that their eyes have been opened by events, myself and FR---they're automatic votes for Dems has been replaced by...well, I don't want to turn this into an immigration thread so I'll leave it at that.

37 posted on 02/14/2007 7:44:00 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: SmoothTalker

How about a Rudy/Newt ticket?


38 posted on 02/14/2007 7:44:28 AM PST by meg88
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To: MrB
Fine, work against him in the primaries, but not supporting him in the general will get you Madame President Hillary.

See, now, you're being too sensible and rational. That's not good enough for some Freepers. They want PURITY.

39 posted on 02/14/2007 7:44:29 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: meg88

Only if you flip around the candidates.


40 posted on 02/14/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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