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Why So Few Jews Vote for Republicans
ABC news ^ | Feb. 13, 2007 | JENNIFER RUBIN

Posted on 02/13/2007 10:00:19 PM PST by Mount Athos

It is no secret that Jews in America have historically not favored the Republican Party. Several polls estimated that only 25 percent of Jews voted for Bush in 2004. Although disputed for of its small sample size, the National Jewish Democratic Council's 2006 poll showed only 12 percent of Jews voted for the GOP. The Jewish Community Relations Council estimated that Bush got just 19 percent of the Jewish vote in 2000.

Commentators in the Jewish community and party pollsters debate endlessly why Jews are not more favorably disposed toward the GOP. Jews are wealthier and more educated than the average American, generally oppose affirmative action and favor strong support of Israel. On these counts the GOP should, many say, have greater appeal.

Is it because Jews have an historical affinity for FDR and the party of immigrants and the "little guy"? Is it because of Jews' religious devotion to "tikkun olam" — repair of the world — which they translate to support for governmental social services? Maybe some of each but perhaps something else is at work

The dustup over the location of Mitt Romney's presidential announcement — the Henry Ford Museum — may be revealing. For Jews over the age of 40 or so, the name Ford means more than Mustangs and American innovation. Ford, of course, was a notorious anti-Semite, publisher of the International Jew (an update of the Protocols of Zion), and an apologist for Hitler who received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Hitler's Nazi government in July 1938. In many Jewish homes, owning a Ford was verboten.

He was no cultural icon.

Fast forward to today. As soon as Romney announced that he would make his presidential announcement at the Ford Museum, the accusations and statements started to fly. The National Jewish Democratic Council came out first, chastising Romney for making a pilgrimage to the site of this famous anti-Semite. Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks fired back in a press release today, saying, "I'm saddened and disappointed by the attack today by the NJDC against Gov. Romney."

Pointing out that former President Clinton had once said nice things about Ford, the RJC said that "The RJC believes that the NJDC does a disservice to Gov. Romney's strong record of support for the Jewish community and to their own reputation by their actions."

The NJDC responded, ""Presidential campaign announcements are as much about symbolism of the location as the substance of the speech. Mitt Romney went to a museum named after the most premier anti-Semite and xenophobe in American history. But his choice of location suggests that he should do his homework on basic American history."

It is doubtful either of these groups believe Romney is really an anti-Semite. Democratic consultant Dan Gerstein perhaps said it best: "I don't think Romney is guilty of anything other than obliviousness.

But you could argue that obliviousness is indicative of a broader problem with the social conservatives Romney is trying to court, which is a lack of sensitivity to the concerns many Jews have about their place in American society."

Indeed, the incident may say something not only about Romney but about the GOP's problem with Jews. In his boatload of advisers, Romney apparently did not have anyone to say, "You know, a lot of Jews really hate Ford, and it might mess up your message. Let's try Edison's lab to make a point about American innovation."

The GOP has become a rural, overwhelmingly Christian and Southern party. It is not populated by urban ethnics who, even if they aren't Jewish, understand Jews' cultural references and sensibilities. Ask an Italian New Yorker in October why the restaurants are empty, and he'll say "It's Yom Kippur, silly." You would never catch a Greek from Chicago saying, as a Republican from southern Virginia just did, that asking the state to apologize for slavery was like "asking the Jews to apologize for killing Christ."

In short, the Republicans are not just our kind of people, many Jews say. They don't sound like us, they don't talk like us and they don't understand us. Unless and until that changes, Jews likely will likely be voting overwhelmingly Democratic for years to come.


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"Why So Few Jews Vote for Republicans"

"The GOP has become a rural, overwhelmingly Christian and Southern party. It is not populated by urban ethnics who, even if they aren't Jewish, understand Jews' cultural references and sensibilities."

"American Jews hate the Christian GOP.... moron vote... Jews for Nazi's ... Jews hate Christians and Republicans... Jews must have a death wish... If the Jewish people knew anything.... Liberal American Jews are Liberals... Hitler will reemerge... Jewish massacre in the death camps"

Gee, I almost had it figured out for a second there. Can't remember what it was now though.
21 posted on 02/13/2007 11:10:31 PM PST by ndt
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To: Mount Athos

It's really not that complicated. First, as someone mentioned earlier, Jews tend to live in cities, and city folk vote Democrat. Second, relatedly but not the same, Jews tend to be cosmopolitan types and are therefore social liberals -- pro-abortion, pro-gay, no faith in the public square. Even the ones who vote Republican tend to do so because of economics and foreign policy, not social issues. If the Reps and Dems switched on abortion, gays, and faith, then you'd see a massive shift in voting behavior.

Finally, remember, too, that Jews who came to the U.S. near the beginning of the century were often socialists. They didn't come here to flee communism. The New York Jewish community was probably THE major source for the development of American socialist thought in this century.

Yes, voting Democratic is against their interests in a lot of specific ways. But who Jews are at their core is so aligned with the Democratic philosophy that it's hard to conceive of them voting differently, barring a massive change in party ideology of the kind I mentioned.


22 posted on 02/13/2007 11:10:37 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Mount Athos
Most, if not all, of the Jews I know inherited their politics from their parents in some way. Maybe most people do in general, but I particularly notice it about them. Anyway, I assume (and have seen some evidence) that their parents got their politics from their parents, etc. It is a very traditional culture. That works both ways, btw - a very conservative Jew I knew got her politics from her father, another from his father the Rabbi.

As to why the Jews back up the line were liberal, well, there's the question that needs to be answered. I don't know the answer, perhaps it has something to do with persecution in the old country. But I do know that nobobdy is going to wave a magic wand and change these traditions with mere logic about who supports Israel the most. The most liberal Jews I've known were fervent Israel supporters, to the point where they talked about going and serving in the military there if necessary. But that sure didn't have any effect on their politics here.

23 posted on 02/13/2007 11:14:15 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: wodinoneeye
"Many 'jews' also idolize communism and by extension histories worst mass murderers Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot."

Oooo Can't you just feel the love in the room tonight. I can't for the life of me figure out why we can't get their vote.
25 posted on 02/13/2007 11:17:35 PM PST by ndt
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To: Mount Athos
Lincoln (republican) ended slavery. Republicans passed Civil rights. Democrats controlled the South and have a former KKK Senator. Yet Blacks still vote Democrat? Is it the media? I don not understand either.
26 posted on 02/13/2007 11:24:01 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: ndt
Gee, I almost had it figured out for a second there. Can't remember what it was now though.

After this thread we'll be lucky if we don't lose a few Jewish voters.

27 posted on 02/13/2007 11:24:58 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: KellyAdmirer
The most liberal Jews I've known were fervent Israel supporters, to the point where they talked about going and serving in the military there if necessary. But that sure didn't have any effect on their politics here.

If they didn't feel that to some extent, I'd be worried. But running with a far-left crowd can change you. The leftier of those two friends I mentioned above once told me about a Jewish friend of hers who got some adjunct teaching job at Columbia ... the guy went in pro-Israel, and after about a year she found a Lebanese flag on his desk. I mean, what can you do for somebody like that.

28 posted on 02/13/2007 11:26:27 PM PST by Generic_Login_1787
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To: Zeroisanumber
After this thread we'll be lucky if we don't lose a few Jewish voters.

LOL, I've seen how my papist crowd gets treated on FR, I'm not eager to see the rest of this thread.

I've always said, though, I feel closer theologically to most Jews than to most Christians.

29 posted on 02/13/2007 11:28:20 PM PST by Generic_Login_1787
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To: ndt
Oooo Can't you just feel the love in the room tonight. I can't for the life of me figure out why we can't get their vote.

Since when did truth become love? Its Lemming voting, and of course not 100%, but enough to make it Lemming just the same, because it constantly high levels voting only one way. Its not that complicated nor is it racist, it is baffling (even with the black vote) since the Democraps have adopted most of the Nazi philosophys of government run schools, gun control, anti-semitism, and racism with "white power" as a central dominating theme from the civil war to the 1960's. As a voting block they don't care what type of a incompetant scumbag is running, the question is, is he a Democrap?

30 posted on 02/13/2007 11:31:31 PM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Michael.SF.
Brilliant!!

But the Jews won't care. I are part one, and know my relatives, so to speak. When Jews became secular, they simply turned their messianic yearnings and prophetic Jeremiads into secular Utopian schemes. Hence, communism, socialism, anarchism, environmentalism, etc. All totalitarian schemes to bring on the secular Day of the Lord perfection of life.
31 posted on 02/13/2007 11:36:09 PM PST by johnmark7
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To: Brimack34

That's the most obtuse canard of an argument. If Republicans want black votes, the argument has to be better than "Generations ago, Democrats were bad on civil rights." Make a real argument: personal responsibility, anti-crime, moral values. And cut the "blacks just don't get it" attitude.


32 posted on 02/13/2007 11:37:09 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: BackInBlack

That was not an argument it was a point of fact. What arguments to Democrats have, Because Jessie and Al told them to vote that way. You have the attitude not me. I am not trying to convert anyone, just trying to understand voting patterns.


33 posted on 02/13/2007 11:47:54 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Mount Athos
I think Jews have been collectivists historically. It's the safety in numbers mindset. Centuries of persecution have produced a subliminal fear of the cultures they inhabit. The Democrats under Roosevelt bought the Soviet propaganda regarding mistreatment of blacks in America. (Not that it wasn't prevalent, but the communists wanted to disrupt the political landscape by pitting blacks against capitalism). Jews identified with persecuted blacks and lined up behind FDR and his party.
35 posted on 02/14/2007 1:51:14 AM PST by Misterioso
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To: Mount Athos
I wish these polls would identify Jews as either "Americans of Jewish Heritage" or practicing Jews. Otherwise it is like assuming anyone who has an Italian last name is Catholic.
36 posted on 02/14/2007 2:08:39 AM PST by still_learning (Will Rogers never met Dick Durbin)
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To: Mount Athos
Am I the only one to have discerned the real purpose of the article was to reintroduce the "Republicans are Nazis" meme?

Obviously the author of the piece can't and doesn't say so directly; and in fact produces a source to argue (weakly) against it near the end, down where few are likely to be followed.

But methinks she gives herself away by saying that "The GOP has become a rural, overwhelmingly Christian and Southern party" and trying to use as an example of this, a Harvard graduate comfortably elected governor of Massachusetts.

37 posted on 02/14/2007 2:29:33 AM PST by Heatseeker
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To: Michael.SF.
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Did the National Jewish Democratic Council object to Hitlery swapping spit with Arafat's wifey, or to her calling Jewish people "Fucking Jew bastards"? The pseudo Jewish group "NJDC" should disband and go into hiding. They are a lying bunch of outrageous commies.
38 posted on 02/14/2007 3:11:42 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Mount Athos

Seem to recall and AMerican Orthodox Jew once sayiing that
most American Jews are more LIBERAL than they are Jewish.
The religion they practice is Liberalism not Judaism.
Michael Medved said it better than I,if I remember him
correctly.It was memorable for it explained so much.


39 posted on 02/14/2007 3:28:30 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Mount Athos

The GOP has become a rural, overwhelmingly Christian and Southern party. It is not populated by urban ethnics who, even if they aren't Jewish, understand Jews' cultural references and sensibilities

Urban ethnics also are usually liberals through their educational upbringing. It's not just Jews that fall into the geographic liberal abyss that the Northeast and other areas of engender.

I would be considered an "urban ethnic" who was lucky enough to escape the cycle.


40 posted on 02/14/2007 3:40:03 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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